The Dark Side of Katy Perry (Part 1): A Problematic Pattern

From Dark Horse to just dark, there is a pattern that has followed Katy Perry through the decades. 

This week, I'll be leading you on Part 1 of my journey into one of the darkest pop princesses in the industry. Katy Perry has been a divisive figure, ever since she stepped onto the scene with "I Kissed a Girl," but this bubble gum diva's sparkly pop persona has been hiding a much darker reality. 

I'm taking you through the timeline, from groping Justin Bieber, to alleged assaults against actors and models, and the death of a nun -- this is the history Katy Perry doesn't want you to see.

And it's only the start...

Transcript

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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Scandal Queens. It is me, E. B, the host you love or love to hate. And we are back at it this week with another deep dive episode. As you all know, this is a show that has not shied away from talking about pop stars, even the most popular of the most popular, popular, popular girlies. Specifically the pop stars with naughty sides and questionable ties. You guys know that I like people to see these celebrities for who they are. And in honor of that story tradition, we are going to keep things going today with one of the naughtyest, and in my personal opinion, one of the most narcissistic pop girlies of the bunch. Miss Katy Perry. Uh Katie Perry, real name Katie Hudson, Catherine Hudson, has been in the news nonstop lately after Ruby Rose's latest allegations caused a tidal wave in the wide awake singer's bubbly persona. Of course, for those in the know, these allegations are nothing new, right? This is this has been the thing with Katy Perry for a long time. But Katy Perry is nothing if not a girly who has been plagued by a pattern of problematic behavior. I mean, we're talking decades, multiple decades now worth of really problematic shit. We're talking unwanted gropes, fondling castmates, and allegedly rubbing her genitals on other people's faces. I mean, if we were talking about a male performer in this context, he'd be getting the Cosby treatment. But Katie somehow continues to skate free and flying into the atmosphere with billionaires' wives and, you know, just doing world tours. Uh it's it's it's crazy. And I hope by the end of this episode, we're gonna stop doing that. Uh, I do think it's worth saying that when I started researching this episode, I expected this to be a one-and-done situation. Like I genuinely thought I'm gonna make a 30, 40-minute episode about Katy Perry, it'll be a neat little package, timeline of some shady stuff that she's done. Um, but I quickly realized that the rabbit hole is way deeper and darker than that. Um, what I realized is I started getting into the actual story of Katy Perry, and I went all the way back and started trying to put together this timeline of things that she had done. It's dark, okay? It's it's darker than I realized, it's darker than you probably realized. And what I thought was going to be just a quick study in some overt female narcissism, like an like an asshole basically, um, turned into some genuinely troubling patterns and some worrying uh red flags that that I think maybe spell out that Katy Perry is a very narcissistic person, but not just any kind of narcissist, like a malignant narcissist. Um her fans always claim she's the victim of a smear campaign, but is she? Is she or is she uh an asshole who doesn't care about other people? It might be time for us to admit that we have a Katy Perry problem. And by the end of this episode, it should be clear to you, spelled out in black and white, that it's it's done enough. So this will be part one. We're gonna look at the timeline of everything Katie's done, um, this lots of sexual assault allegations, uh, property lawsuits, lots and lots of different stuff. And then next week we're gonna go into all of the crazy people that she's been tied to, associated with, surrounded herself with, um, as well as what I think is basically a psychological breakdown as an NLP and P of what are some pretty clear signs of narcissism. So buckle up Buttercup because it is going to be a wild and messy ride on the dark side of Katy Perry. Before we get into the nitty-gritty, though, let's have a quick temperature check and see what is going on with the biggest scandals and controversies in your favorite Hollywood celeb. First up, Christina Applegate has been hospitalized. Um, really big news just came out over the weekend. Christina Applegate, who revealed she had received an MS diagnosis in 2021, has been hospitalized in Los Angeles. The news came over the weekend to the shock of her fans who have been following along um with Applegate's journey because she's been she which she's been sharing quite openly both in her latest memoir and on her podcast. Um, shortly after the news broke, what's quite interesting about this is there were some inside sources that these media outlets got in touch with and especially page six. And those inside sources who claim to be close friends of Applegate claimed that the married with children and Anchorman star had actually been hospitalized since late March. So even though we're just getting this news around April 18th or so, um, April 16th, 17th, maybe, um, she's actually been in the hospital since the end of March. Now it's not clear at this time if Applegate's hospitalization has to do with the MS or her people were contacted for a comment and they said we're not going to comment on anything at this time or confirm or deny anything at this time. Um they're playing things really close to the chest. But again, those insiders who went to page six claim that they are very worried about her because things have not been easy since the diagnosis. It's just kind of been one thing after another for Christina Applegate. So whatever happens, I'm sure I'm not the only one here who hopes that in the coming days we receive lots of good news about Christina and she's able to make as much of a recovery as possible uh and leave the hospital. Next up is Chris Jenner gonna sue Father Time? According to page six, Chris Jenner is furious at Father Time for not honoring the agreement she signed with her plastic surgeon. That's right, the Kardashian matriarch is in the news, allegedly claiming that she isn't happy with the results of her$100,000 facelift. Yep, yep, that facelift that everybody was raving about on the internet at the end of last year, in between all the oh, eat the rich. Um, you know, um, but the this this facelift that Chris got last year, Chris Jenner is set social media light, and people are like, oh my god, she looks so good. Where did she get that work done? Well, it turns out that it was a hundred thousand dollar facelift, and now it has completely failed. It has completely gone back to normal. It was all just smoke and mirrors, my love. And Chris Jenner is allegedly furious that she now looks her age in pictures. Um, hopefully someone will find the courage to sit her down and explain to her that humans age and there's nothing you can do about it, no matter how, no matter how many international criminals you hang out with, no matter how many traffickers you take pictures with on social media, uh, no matter how much you yourself may have allegedly been tied to those kinds of behaviors or questioned by the FBI about your daughter's ties to Zhou Lau, another international criminal. Um, you know, I even though you have those things, Chris, they they don't stop time and you can't control nature. So um I'm sure we'll be on the lookout for another even more dramatic facelift in future from the woman who is constantly competing with her daughters. Third up on today's Docker, Gypsy Rose will do anything but shut the fuck up. That's right, Gypsy Rose is back in the limelight, and no, not for another murder yet. Still got time. Um this time she's getting her 15 seconds of media fame by taking to every platform with disgraced TikToker Natalie Reynolds. Um, yes, that Natalie Reynolds, the influencer who notoriously filmed herself paying a homeless woman$20 to jump into a pond when she couldn't swim. And then she Natalie Reynolds filmed her and her friends running away laughing as the woman drowned. Almost. Rose and Reynolds, who have disgraced themselves so badly that they can't even get attention individually on platforms like YouTube or TikTok anymore, have seemingly teamed up to create a new troll rage bait account or new troll rage bait content, doing everything they can to fill the comment sections with with vitriol. Um they've even gone so far as to play fake lesbians, they they poke, they poke fun at each other's past crimes. Um let's just let's let's have a little listen, let's take a quick listen to a clip of Gypsy making a really funny joke about killing her mother, just so you can get the gist of what I'm talking about.

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We listen and we don't judge. One time I dared a homeless woman$20 to jump into a lake, and then she said she couldn't swim, and I ran away laughing. I went to prison for eight and a half years because I my own mom. Oh my god. Hey, we listen and we don't judge. We listen and we don't judge.

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Oh yeah, you just heard what you thought you heard. Two women who did horrible things, one who almost killed a woman, and another one who orchestrated the murder of a woman, joking for TikTok clout about the horrible things that they've done and the human lives that they've either taken or almost taken. It's sad, it's pathetic. You know, it here's what I cannot get out of my head, right? All that attention and money, like Natalie Reynolds had millions of followers at one point and would have been making like probably five figures a month on social media at one point, right? Because of the time that she was in. Gypsy, the same thing. Gypsy is probably made millions and millions and millions of dollars between television shows, book deals, appearances, all the crap that she has pulled on make capitalizing on her mother's murder, okay? They've had all of that money, all that privilege, and all that access, and they still have nothing to offer. They haven't gone to college, they haven't started businesses, they haven't built communities, they're nothing. They're like swollen ticks, just gorging themselves on attention, and now that they're losing it, they don't know what to do. It's fucking pathetic. They are people who have no stable sense of self, no fucking identity, no values, no morals, no ethics, no interests, no curiosity. Like it is barely human. It is borderline being a rock at this point, and it really makes one wonder what is pathologically wrong with you that the only thing you have to offer is rage bait on the internet. Go to college, ladies. Get jobs, do something with yourselves besides gorge on your narcissism. It's time for both Natalie Reynolds and Gypsy Rose Blanchard to sit down and shut the fuck up. And frankly, both of them need to leave the public realm and go and sit in a fucking corner with their noses against the wall and think, hmm, what does it actually mean to be human? And last up in Palette Cleanser News, Kim K and Ray J sex tape drama continues. Kim Kardashian and her mother Chris Jenner are suing Ray J for an alleged breach of agreement. This comes after Ray J made bombshell claims about the Kardashian Jenner duo saying that they organized the tape to make Kim famous, you know, that infamous sex tape that she got famous from because she wasn't interesting enough to get a show. Um, and the family was under an impending Rico investigation. That was that was another claim that Ray J recently made. Ray J is shot back at his ex and her mother saying that they violated the agreements first by talking about him on their Hulu show, the Kardashians, whatever the fuck that is. Um, and he says that that negates any responsibility he has to keep quiet. So he's been singing like a little bird about a lot of Kardashian secrets. All of this, of course, comes after the 2021 settlement that was reached between Ray J, Kim Kardashian, and Chris Jenner. And this agreement was a la the sex tape because Ray J was walking around saying, hey, Chris Jenner organized this sex tape with her daughter because she knew it was the only way to make her daughter famous, and like that's what she wanted. Um, so they reached a settlement in 2021 in which Ray J essentially was going to be paid six million dollars to keep his mouth shut, and he agreed not to disparage the Kardashians, not to disparage their businesses, not to talk about the sex tape, not to claim any more money off the sex tape, yada yada, yada, yada, yada. And Ray J signed that. Now, the payments were supposed to be made across several years, the last payment of a million dollars being made in 2026. But now Kim and her mother are coming back at Ray J because Ray J has said he was helping the feds build a Rico case against the Kardashians and all this other stuff. So now the Kardashians are saying we're not paying anything, and in fact, we want Ray J to pay us six million dollars instead. The continued drama is messy, it's weird, and it points to some pretty suspicious behavior from Kardashian and Chris Jenner. If you've really been paying attention and you know the kind of patterns that are appearing, um, because you know, they've come out categorically and denied that the feds have any kind of Rico investigation against them, but I find that hard to believe because A, they were so closely tied with P. Diddy, who was in a Rico investigation, that I very much believe the Kardashians were probably being investigated too. But that aside, they've had a lot of run-ins with the feds, a lot more than your average person. Like in 2021, when Kim Kardashian got found guilty of committing fucking fucking financial fraud, she she got caught doing a crypto bump and dump scam and she had to pay millions of dollars to the SEC, which is a federal administration. Again, she was also in the last like five or six years questioned by the FBI about her relationship with Jo Lao, who is a wanted international criminal who she has, you know, left hotels carrying trash bags of money from that, right? That this guy's handed to her. So for Kim Kardashian and her mother, Chris Jenner, to say it's categorically false that there's ever been any investigation against them into RICO charges, I think would be a pretty absurd statement to make considering that Kim has been questioned by the FBI for her ties to criminal elements before, um, and the fact that she's been done by the SEC for financial fraud. Sorry, but those things flag you to federal administrations. And yeah, I find Ray J's claims totally believable that they've probably been investigated for RICO charges. Uh, but who knows? How will this all settle? Time will tell. But the accusations of RICO charges are interesting. They're interesting when you consider the long and storied history of the Kardashians and their relationship with the Fed. All right, it's that time. You're here for it. We're gonna do it. Katie Perry, the California dream girl whose career has been plagued by rumors of problematic behavior and outright abuse. The world was rocked by her once again last week when Ruby Rose dropped bombshell allegations against the pop princess, saying, making claims that we're gonna go into in detail in just a minute. But with these allegations, what they've really done is kind of rip open a rabbit hole, and not just any rabbit hole either. It is the Katy Perry rabbit hole, is seriously one that is filled with twisted connections, narcissistic behavior, and seriously dangerous predatory red flags. Because Katy Perry didn't start being a villain when she got on a Jeff Bezos space flight, okay? For those of you who've been paying attention, the teenage dreamsinger has been a problem for a long, long time to men and women, young and old. And that's what I want to look at today. Because behind all of those shiny PR headlines that her team pays a lot of money for, who is Katy Perry really? They they work really hard to try to cover it up, but it is there. It is there if you know where to look. Because if you know who to look at, the people she surrounds herself with, who she works with, how she behaves time and time and time again over decades, decades you start to see the pattern. And that's what we're gonna be going through today in this first part. We're gonna look at the first big part of this pattern, specifically a timeline of events, a timeline of events that paints a very, very particular picture of who we're dealing with. So buckle up because this is the real history of Katy Perry, a timeline of what the fuck moments that should make any decent person go, who the hell am I supporting? This is the history of Katy Perry being an undeniable piece of sh. So let's start all the way back at the beginning. Let's let's let's let's get in our little time machine, the little beep, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, and we're gonna flashback. We're gonna go back more than a decade to the swinging and groovy time of the mid-2000s. The jeans are low, the heels are high, and everyone is caked from head to toe in the thickest, most mattiest matte foundation that money can buy. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. We are all the way back in 2012 when Katie Perry was heading for the stars and the sky was the only limit. This was the teenage dream era for Katie. Do you remember that? All the bubblegum clouds and candy cane trees, we were enamored by it. We freaking loved it. We were bopping along to all her fantasy delusions and any club that would have us. But what now? What is that? Traipsing through the bubblegum clouds? The music hits a pause. Oh, it's Katie's first big fucking stumbling block. The assault of Justin Bieber. Yeah, you heard me correctly. While that bubblegum pop music was pumping through the stereo, Katy Perry was grabbing Justin Bieber, who had just turned 18. She was grabbing his ass. Right in front of cameras, as a married woman. And that is what you would have seen if you had been in London in 2012, backstage at a big event, and watching Katy Perry greet Justin Bieber, who she barely knew. That's what you would have seen. Katy Perry, who was 27 years at the time, grabs Justin Bieber, hugs him, embraces him, and then just goes in and grabs the 18-year-old's ass and starts squeezing. She's pulling him tight into her body, squeeze, squeezing his butt. 27-year-old woman to an 18-year-old kid. I the photo is awkward, it's uncomfortable. And then now when you put it against later accusations that have just come out, and the ones that we're going to be talking about throughout this episode, it's really, it's really disturbing. And also, you know, considering what we know now about Justin Bieber, the whole thing, when you see this picture, and I've got it, I'll put it up on Patreon. I'm gonna have all of these receipts, all this evidence over on Patreon if you want to do a deep dive or you want to hear next week's episode early. Um, but it it the you look at this picture of her grabbing Justin Bieber's ass, and you literally go, What the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? She was almost a decade older than this kid at the time. And it seems like an like an initial greeting. It seems like they've just crossed paths at at a professional event, mind you. They're backstage at some concert. I couldn't find what concert this was in 2012, but the video exists. You can go and look at they've got like gifts of it, like everything. The the whole thing, it's cringe, it's horrible, it's awful, it's disturbing. And she's in a professional environment. This is where they work, and she's grabbing this 18-year-old by the button, pulling him like against her pelvis. It's a PR nightmare, it's cringe. But what I really think is important and why we're gonna start right here with this event in 2012 is because it kind of sets the ball rolling for a series of other allegations that paint a troubling picture of behavior from the I kissed a girl singer. We're gonna move on to the next event now, but don't worry, you don't have to get in your time machine for this one because this also happened in 2012. Yes, that's right, Justin Bieber wasn't the only sexually aggressive encounter Katy Perry would have in 2012, because that same year she would also be reunited with Josh Kloss, who was the male model who played her love interest in the 2010 video for Teenage Dream, which was another one of her major, major hits. So the two cross paths two years after Teenage Dream, right? Teenage Dream happens in 2010. 2012, the two cross paths at a birthday party because they have a mutual friend, Johnny Wujek, who is this celebrity stylist. Okay. So Josh gets invited to to Johnny's party and he goes, Katie is also there. And there's like, oh, right, okay, this is great. We're gonna like old friends, we we work together before hi, how you doing? Nope, not how it went. According to Kloss's claims, while they were talking to a group of people at this birthday party, and he did not know everyone in this group, while they were talking to this group of people, Katie leans over, pulls open his pants and his underwear, this Josh Closs guy, and shows the group this guy's dick. And the way they make it sound is as if they are all standing in this like group in this party, and she starts, they start, they have some kind of conversation in which she's like, Yeah, no, like show him your penis. And he goes, No, no, no, no, no, no. And she's like, Show him your penis. He's like, No, no, no, no. She goes, Come on, look, and then she shows this select group of people, this guy's penis, against his will. He said he was humiliated, he said he felt assaulted, he felt traumatized, and that that's understandable, right? It's super understandable how you would feel traumatized and humiliated when someone showed your genitals to a group of people as a at a as a conversation piece at a fucking party. In any color or fashion, it is odd that a 27-year-old woman, because Katy Perry was 27-year-old, 27 years old at this time, is showing her friend what is essentially a coworker's genitals. Like, can you imagine if you walked into work and you were talking to people in the break room and your boss reached over and decided to pull down your pants and show the room your genitals as a conversation piece, as a part of casual conversation, you'd burn that place to the ground. And that's what really colors this incident for me, especially considering also that while this was happening, while she was grabbing Justin Bieber, the teenage boy's ass, and pushing him against her pelvis, and while she was exposing Josh Closs to a bunch of people exposing his genitals, she was married to Russell Brand during all of this, which we're we're gonna get deeper into in just a minute. But here's what really killed it for me as someone with an ounce of pattern recognition. In 2010, as Katie was working with Kloss for the first time on this teenage dream video shoot, she was producing some songs with some some truly disturbing lyrics. And there's one song in particular that I think when you listen to the lyrics of it now and you keep this incident in mind of her forcing this man to show his penis to people in a party, she she shows his penis forcibly to people. These are the lyrics that she was because her name's on this writing at the time. Okay. Now I can't play you the song because copyright reasons, but let me just read you some of the lyrics from her 2010 single Peacock from her Teenage Dream album, which is Teenage Dreams, the one she worked on with Josh Kloss. Word on the street, you got something to show me. Magical, colorful, Mr. Mystery. I'm intrigued for a peek. Heard it's fascinating. Come on, baby, let me see what you hiding underneath. What's up your sleeve? Such a tease. Wanna see the show? N3D, a movie. Heard it's beautiful. Be the judge and my girl's gonna take a vote. Come on, baby, let me see you what you hiding underneath. I want to see your peacock cock cock. Your peacock cock. It goes, it goes online. And that seems subtle enough at first, but then let's go. Let's let's let's listen to what the next verse says. Are you brave enough to let me see your peacock? Don't be chicken boy. Stop acting like a beach. I'm a peace out if you don't give me the payoff. Come on, baby, let me see what you're hiding underneath. Are you brave enough to let me see your peacock? Really gross, right? Really gross. This song is about a woman trying to force a man to let her see and you know have his penis apparently against his win. If you don't believe me, let's let's let's look at this last little chunk of the song. Skip the talk, heard it all. Time to walk the walk. Break me off if you bad. Show me who's the boss. Need some goose to get loose. Come on, take a shot. Come on, baby. Let me see what you hiding underneath. Let's break that down. Let's just break that whole down. This whole entire song, this peacock song, again, which was coming out the same time that she was assaulting Josh Closs. In this song, Katie is talking to a shy guy because he says that in one of the lyrics, oh, you're shy, you don't want to have sex with me, you don't want to show me your penis. That's what the song's about. She's with a shy guy who does not want to have sex with her or show her his genitals. The man's avoiding her. So Katie says in the song, take a shot of goose to get loose so that you'll give it to me. So she's telling him, Oh, you don't want to have sex with me, well, get drunk, and then you'll want to have sex with me. Can you imagine if this was sung by a man? I mean, people were, you know, rightfully so, super upset about baby it's cold outside. Well, what about this song? This this is a Harvey Weinstein song, which basically echoes exactly what she did to Josh Kloss in 2020, and sorry, 2012, which makes you go, well, she was writing this in 2010 and then she does this behavior in 2012. What the hell is going on there? It's a Harvey Weinstein song. It is this the whole song says, I want to have sex, no more excuses, I don't care about your consent. Drop trout, give me what I want, get drunk if you have to, but I'm having your body and you're gonna give it to me. It's like it's it's a rape song, and it's super odd that she's got this song and then she goes and she's grabbing 18-year-old Justin Bieber's butt, and then she's exposing the male model that worked on this same album with her in the music videos. While she's married to a man who allegedly at the time is raping women left, right, and center, mind you, it it is uh it all stinks, and this is only the beginning of the story. We're not even halfway through this yet. Now let's quickly try to wash off the stink of that, and we're gonna jump back in our time machine. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, and we're gonna flash forward a couple of years. Katy Perry is now a single gal. It's 2014. She and Russell Brand no longer together. She's flying on her own with a brand new tour for her album Prism. She's at the top of the world, soaring on girl boss energy and dominating the radio for the 15 people who still are listening to the radio in 2014. Now, this was actually a really, really big year for Katy Perry, and she was kind of dominating the charts. It was the year that she performed at the Brit Awards for my UK listeners, um, and it was the year that she released the single Dark Horse, which I think is quite significant. Um, she was unstoppable in 2014. But it also seems like her 2012 problematic behavior of um no consent and avoiding people's boundaries was following her right into 2014. Because according to a resurfaced interview from 2014, Anna Kendrick makes this claim that she met Katy Perry briefly at a party, and Katy Perry, I quote, finger banged her cleavage at the party that they were mutually invited to. Look, it's not an outright damning claim, but it's odd. Okay, it's odd because by this point, Katy Perry's 30, okay? She's 30 years old, and she's going up to co-workers that she barely knows and finger banging their cleavage. What distant 30-year-old social acquaintance do you have who you would allow to finger bang your cleavage at a party? You know what I mean? Like what? Imagine someone you barely knew in passing that you just kind of like knew their name in their face, but you had never really spoken to them before and you didn't know them as a person. Imagine if this person you barely know, like you're like, oh hey, I think her name is Sarah. Hey, Sarah. Like, what if that girl comes up to you and just takes her fingers and just starts finger fucking your boobs? It's gross, it's weird, and it's the kind of thing you only do with someone you're deeply socially invested in. Like that kind of behavior. I've got I've got a girlfriend, Ruth, love her to death. Ruth, shout out to you if you hear this episode. I would let Ruth do that to me, but Ruth and I have been friends since like, I don't know, 2012 or something like that. Like we've been friends forever and we've been through thick and thin and we know everything about each other, and that'd be fine, right? I get it. That would be an inside joke. But it's gross and it's weird when it's just a 30-year-old distant work acquaintance, which I think people kind of forget in this Hollywood thing is that these people work together, they're work acquaintances. These are not, they're not all buddy-buddy party. It's the whole thing's gross. And once again, I'm saying it like a chicken with my head cut off, not damning by itself. But then when you look at this pattern of behavior, groping Justin Bieber, exposing this male model, and now finger banging someone's cleavage, it starts to add up. Finger banging cleavage and groping teenagers was not the only problematic behavior that Katy Perry was getting up to again, because if we flash forward one more year to 2015, we've now got Anna Kendrick one year back in the mirror, and we've got Josh Kloss three years back in the mirror, and Justin Bieber three years behind her at this point as well. But in 2015, one of Katy Perry's most notorious incidents happened. And that happened when the singer became embroiled in a lawsuit with nuns in Los Angeles. Yes, I'm not even kidding. This is the most absurd story, and I think this is actually like one of the darkest stories about Katy Perry and really shows who she is. But you heard me correctly. I said nuns, as in bless you, sister, like nuns. Hand to God, this is a real story. It's absolutely crazy, and it shows like the huge lack of empathy that Katy Perry has, and that she does not give a shit about women. Like she does not love, care for, or even like women. Hand to God, all of this is true. So in 2015, Katy Perry becomes involved in this lawsuit against an order of Los Angeles nuns called the Heart of Mary. Now, these nuns lived on a sprawling eight-acre property, which they had pulled their own money together to buy all the way back in 1972. Okay, these nuns owned this property, they bought it themselves. The place, absolutely unimaginable. We're talking 30,000 feet of living space, a pool, a tower, a prayer house. Incredible. But in 2015, the nuns, who at the time were led by Sister Catherine Rose Holzman, were relocated by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Essentially, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles was like, right, we're gonna sell the property. You guys are gonna go to different convents. Here's here's what's gonna happen. So the nuns, who again had bought the property themselves, said, Okay, you want us to sell, and we're gonna move to these different real these different spots that we've been relocated to. Fine, fine. So the nuns, they do sell the property, they sell it themselves to a restaurateur, Dana Hollister, and that's when all the trouble kicks off. Okay. So they've sold it to Dana Hollister for 15 million. That same year, very, very soon after Hollister buys this property, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, who's technically the boss of these nuns, the ones that told them to sell the property originally, they turn around with Katy Perry and sue these nuns. They sue the nuns that they told to sell the property. And the reason that they sue them is because Katy Perry has come along and she's decided she wants that property. And she doesn't just want that property, she wants it for less and she's gonna have it. And the Archdiocese decides to side with her. Well, the nuns come back and say, sorry, we've already sold it. We sold it to Dana Hollister, the restauranteur. She's living in it. She's already paid us$100,000 in cash and we've done the agreement. It's settled, it's done, it's over. A years, years and years-long legal battle ensued from this, okay, starting in 2015, it goes all the way to 2018, and it revealed the same self-centered, manipulative behavior from Katy Perry that she's gonna become synonymous with for you by the end of this episode. Because what essentially came down to is when the nuns sold this property to Dana Hollister, they had entered into an agreement with Dana Hollister that they would sell it to her for$15 million, she would give them$100,000 in cash, and then the rest would be settled over time through the mortgage. Now Katy Perry came along and went to the archdiocese, didn't go to these nuns, went to the archdiocese and said, Well, I'll give you$14.5 million for it, but I will pay your archdiocese one million dollars in cash. That's when the archdiocese decided to sue. And the archdiocese decided to sue, not because the nuns had done what they were told to do in selling the property, the archdiocese decided to sue these nuns and destroy their lives because the agreement that the nuns had reached when they sold the property, that again they purchased and bought in 1972, the church decided, well, you guys got all those profits from that sale. So that sale is invalid, we don't approve it. We want to go with Katy Perry because she's gonna pay us a million. Still confused? I'll just spell it right out for you. Katy Perry wanted a property that was already sold. And the sale of that property had already been set up in such a way that it benefited the women who all the way back in 1972 had bought it. Katy Perry went around those women to the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and offered to pay the men of the Archdiocese a million dollars to undermine these women, a million dollars which those nuns would not have seen a penny of. She actively went out to screw these elderly women to get her way into a property. It it is the most mind-blowing thing ever. It turned into such a nasty legal battle, like absolutely horrific legal battle with Katy Perry backing the Archdiocese and encouraging them to harass these poor nuns. It went for three years, and what is so awful about it is it resulted in the death of one of the nuns. Sister Holzman died during legal proceedings. She collapsed in court during legal proceedings, and one of the last things that she said was in an interview minutes before the legal proceedings, in which she said, Katy Perry, please stop. You're hurting so many people, and you don't need to. Whole of the story is absolutely horrendous. It's just 100% Katy Perry using her money to punish, undermine, harm women, old women. Like, un it it is, it's just entitlement. It's elitist mentality. She showed a willingness to harm undercut women if it means getting what she wants. And in my personal opinion, this nun story, I mean, go look into this, go deep dive into this. The Archdiocese involvement with Katy Perry is twisted. In my personal opinion, this is an example of dangerous behavior from a dangerous person who isn't afraid to abuse others in court and who straight up does not see other human beings as equal to her. So the nuns are dead, and we don't have to get back into the time machine just yet because in 2018, the same year that Sister Holman collapsed and died during her lawsuit with Katy Perry, Katy Perry did it again. Again, when she got into the news for taking a teenager's first kiss from him on camera without his consent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You heard that you heard that correct as well. 2018, the stunt happened on American Idol, where Katy Perry was sitting as a judge along with Lionel Ritchie and Luke Bryan, another has been. It was in the audition phase, and 19-year-old Benjamin Glaze let it slip that he had never kissed a girl before. So, again, on camera, Katie summoned Glaze up to the table, and with the promise of planting a kiss on his cheek, at the last minute grabs the kid's head, turns it around, and uh forces a kiss right on his lips. At 35, a 19-year-old getting his first kiss taken from him by a 35-year-old creep who used to be married to Russell Brand. Wow. The whole thing's smacks of gross. Again, you can go and watch the clips if you want. I'll have them up on uh the Patreon. Uh, and American Idol fans were livid. They were livid. A bunch of people were pissed and they blasted the stunt and they questioned the reaction. Like if a man had done that, it it would have been horrible, right? The guy would have been kicked off the show. The whole thing's gross. She gave this kid his first kiss without his consent. She took something that should have been a very sweet moment, a very sweet memory for someone, and used it as a paltry stunt. And what is also kind of gross about it is it has this very egotistical edge to it. It's very much like, aren't you lucky? You got your first kiss from the great Katy Perry. Like it's just this smacks of this like nasty ego thing as well. But what is really, really important is once again, just like grabbing Justin Bieber's ass, just like showing Josh Closs's genitals to people in a room. Katy Perry doesn't care about consent or boundaries. And she constantly, constantly violates that on other people because she does not see them as people. She does not see them as equal to her. They are just props. They are just objects for her to play with. And now let's get to 2019. All right, let's just leave 2018 behind with the dead nuns and the non-consensual kisses, and let's look ahead to 2019 because this is surely going to be the year that Katy Perry learns to be a better person, right? Wrong. If you thought things were gonna get better for Katy Perry in 2019, you are not paying attention because that is the same year that the allegations from Josh Kloss finally came out, right? That we just talked about earlier. But it's also the year she released a blackface shoe. Yes, that is right. Katy Perry had her own clothing line, which I did not know about. Jesus. Um, and she released a pair of shoes in 2019 that were that were blackface. They were they were basically blackface. It was a blackface with these very specific red lips on them, which was a direct head nod, little, little head tilt to menstrual culture, which the menstrual culture, for those of you who don't know, it's that old blackface stereotype of the big red lips and the big white eyes. It's like the mammy culture. It's awful, it's absolutely awful. It's it's horrific. So when these shoes were released, people rightfully went, like, what the hell are you doing? Like, why would you release something that looks like blackface? That's crazy. Katie's team responded by removing the shoe, but that was not the end of the troubles for 2019, because 2019 was also the year that it was discovered Katy Perry had plagiarized parts of her song Dark Horse from the Christian rap artist Flame. That's right. According to Flame, the 2014 hit Dark Horse copied an Austin Auto or an eight-note riff from his song Joyful Noise. And when they went to court in 2018, the courts, the court agreed with it. The court said, Yeah, that actually sounds exactly like your music. And they found that Katy Perry was liable to pay him something like five million dollars in damages for copying that segment of his music. Now Katie would later have that verdict overturned, but it wouldn't be the end of the crack showing around her, and it's still a significant event, willing, like, like worth paying attention to because someone who's willing to plagiarize music on the stage that she has, again, it's stealing. It's someone who's willing to steal and capitalize off of other people, which is an indication that someone doesn't have empathy, doesn't think of other people as equal, doesn't think they should get their their fair portion because narcissism. Crawling into 2020, Katy Perry was back in headlines, but not for good music. This time it was for another property dispute, this time against 85-year-old veteran and founder of 1-800 Flowers, Carl Westcott. Now, according to the allegations, Westcott had agreed to sell his$12 million Montecito California mansion to Katy Perry shortly after he had gone through pretty extensive back surgery. And what Westcott said is she approached me when I was absolutely out of it. I agreed to sell the surgery, and now that I've recovered and I'm not on all these painkillers and I'm more myself, I don't want to sell this house. I never would have sold it to her. I felt pressured and I was under the influence. That was that was the claim that was made. Um he did. Westcott tried to back out of the cell shortly after he sold to Katy Perry, and that just kicked off another years-long legal suit with Perry spending so much money and going above and beyond to try to evict this man from his own house. It was nasty, it was vicious. Uh, in two in 2024, it was ruled that Perry could take control of the home, and in 2025, they ruled that the veteran had to pay her back all this money and repairs and all this other kind of stuff. But again, it's just it was another example. It was blatantly obvious. It was Katy Perry using her money to harass someone in court. It was ugly, it did not show her in a positive light. She was using her wealth to bully people when she could easily have walked away and done something else or settled it in much more civil terms. No, she wanted to batter this person. She wanted to be a battering ram and she didn't care how it made her look. While the lawsuit with Westcott was kind of reaching its natural close, the trail went quiet for a little bit for Katy Perry. For a little bit. From 20 to 24, 2020 to 2024, things were pretty quiet, but they didn't stay quiet for long because Katie Perry's a narcissist. She needs attention. Um, no one cared about the music that Katie was releasing from 2020 to 2024. I mean, we had other things going on, right? Like COVID. We didn't care about her stupid fuck ass bubblegum pop shit. Um, so that's why she decided that in 2024 she was gonna jump back into bed with the notorious Dr. Luke. Now, Dr. Luke is the one who was engaged in years and years and years worth of legal disputes over Kesha, who claimed that he had viciously and brutally abused her for years and years and years, like sexually abused her, mentally abused her, emotionally abused her, you name it. Dr. Luke was involved in this years-long legal suit, years and years and years and years and years. Despite that, and despite the fact fans uh for years were saying, Stop working with Dr. Luke, stop working with Dr. Luke in 2024. Katie Perry jumps right back into the pool with Dr. Luke for her album 143, which included this ridiculously performative, reductive, derivative song Woman's World as a single. And it was just fucking obnoxious. It showed Katy Perry in like a hard hat, acting like a construction worker, like she was the we can do it, gal from World War II, the the Rosie the Riveter. Absolute joke, pandering to the nth degree, you know, as someone who's who's like assaulted people and done all this other you're you're killing nuns, and then she wants to come in here and try to preach to people and try to like stage herself as some kind of feminist icon. Disgusting. She's doing this with an alleged rapist. Fans were shocked that Perry would agree to record, let alone do this whole tour and launch around his work. Uh, but Perry didn't seem to mind. She didn't care. She was super excited about it. And why would she care? If the stories surrounding Dr. Luke are true, then you know, the two of them have similar ideas on what personal autonomy and consent is, if the stories about him are true. So it would make sense that the two of them would get along. Now the next time we see Katy Perry again in kind of like high definition is particularly interesting. And it happens in 2025. And it's particularly interesting because if you, like me, work from the assumption that Katie Perry is a diagnosable narcissist, um, then 2025 is the year that you kind of see the mask falling off of Katie. And 2025, last year, was the year that Katie took her infamous quote unquote space flight. It was not a space flight, by the way, it was an atmospheric flight. They were not in space. There was no re-entry, it was not space. Um, but she, Katy Perry got her ass into a little plane capsule and did a Jeff Bezos-backed space tourism stunt. And the whole thing was a fucking absurdity. The women were calling themselves space explorers. It was it was Jeff Bezos's overinflated wife. Uh, I think it was like Oprah's mistress and a couple of other fucking losers. There was one scientist in there who, frankly, made herself a loser by getting into a capsule with Katie fucking Perry and Gail and Lauren Sanchez. But anyway, they sent them up into the atmosphere, not space. They did not go into space. What you guys think of as space is outside of Earth's atmosphere. These dumb, these dumb hookers just went up into atmosphere and came back down. There was no re-entry, nothing space-like or astronaut-like at all. But anyway, when they came back down, Katy Perry, last year after the space flight, stood in front of a fucking camera, okay, and said, Going to space, finally taught me the meaning of love. Mind you, when she said this in 2025, Katy Perry had a fiance and a four year old child at home when she said, I finally learned what love means, and then a bunch of other words salad. She to me, this is one of the big exposures of her narcissism. If you listen to Katy Perry talk about Katy Perry going into Earth's atmosphere, just taking a bit of a higher place. Plane plane ride. Uh you you can tell the way she carries herself, the way she speaks about herself, uh, detached from reality. She has no idea what she's talking about. She hasn't bothered to look up the science of what she's talking about because like everything else she's saying sounds really cool, and that's all she cares about, pathologically, that she's saying things that make her look cool. This this this space incident, go and just watch the weeks of footage from her afterwards, the blowback from this. But if you see the mask coming off, Katy Perry thinks that she's performing, like she's perfected like the narcissistic image she's trying to project, but she hasn't. You can always see these narcissists for exactly who they are once you see the patterns. And all of that isn't even to say anything about the problems of the outright association with Jeff Bezos, right? Like the whole thing smacked of desperation from Katy Perry watching it, the way she speaks about Lauren and Jeff is she's smacks of a social climber. Smacks of a social climber trying to get a seat at the rich kids table, insecure, vapid, sad, trying to kiss ass with a climate destroyer, a planet destroyer, a society destroyer, uh, an enemy of the working class. It shows exactly what Katy Perry is. Um, but we'll we'll get more into her troubling associations with Jeff Bezos and Russell Brand and her Republican parents and all of that in the next episode. But this year, too, has been a really big year for Katy Perry. And if you were someone who wanted a full timeline of Katy Perry being a fucked up piece of shit, then you would have to look at 2026 as well, because this year has already been one of the most turbulent ones for Katy Perry, and it's really important, really, really important if you're serious about spotting these patterns and these abusive, toxic celebrities who use their celebrity in order to be abusive and toxic. So, first 2026, the year started with another stunning legal loss for Katy Perry. After a 17-year battle with Australian designer Katy Perry of the same name, um, it was decided that the pop singer did not have sole license over that name. Because that's what happened. In 2008, Katy Perry, the pop singer, decided to sue Katy Perry, the Australian designer, saying, You can't use your name anymore. That's my name, and I'm using it now. Even though her real name is Katherine Hudson, right? The two have been locked in a legal battle in Australia for 17 years, and it was just decided recently, like within the last weeks, that Katy Perry of Australia had the right to use her name for her brand any way she wanted. And Katy Perry, the pop star, whose real name is not Katy Perry, lost. She couldn't do that. She couldn't, she couldn't sue, she could not sue the Australian Katy Perry. She had to back off. But that has not been the only blow for Katy Perry because this is also the year, the the year of our lord 2026, where we got the Ruby Rose allegations. Just last week, the Orange is the New Black Actor sent shockwaves through the pop culture community when she alleged in a comment section that she was sexually assaulted by Katy Perry. That's right. The assault Rose claimed happened back in 2010. Remember, just two years before Katy Perry groped Justin Bieber on camera and allegedly sexually assaulted model Josh Kloss. According to Ruby Rose's allegations, the two were at a party in Australia when Ruby Rose fell asleep on a friend's lap. The next thing the actor knew, she alleged that she was waking up with Katy Perry rubbing her genitals on Rose's face. Rose claims that she vomited on Katie, then kept her distance for a number of years. But now that the allegations are out, a police report has been filed. And Katy Perry is allegedly up for sexual misconduct probe. Not her first, if Kloss is to be believed. The whole thing is disturbing. And this is why I was going through this whole timeline. Because if you were someone who didn't know anything about Katy Perry and all you heard was Ruby Rose has come out about this incident that happened 20 years ago, you might go, oh, that's that's ridiculous. Ruby Rose is just trying to get attention. But when you look at this story that's come out now, that Katy Perry rubbed her genitals on a person's sleeping person's face in a nightclub in the 2000s, mid-2000s, it becomes a lot more believable when you then go back and you've got this whole timeline of, okay, right. Well, she grabbed Justin Bieber's ass and she allegedly flat made this model show his genitals to people, and then she killed a nun by harassing them through their archdiocese, and then she sued a veteran, and then she stole this and she did this and she did this. When you see it all in context, it makes Ruby Rose's story sound a lot more viable and and and not that far off pitched to things that have already happened. The whole story is disturbing, it's disgusting. And when you look at all the other pieces of the puzzle, this whole timeline we just walked through, the relationships that we're about to deep dive into, it paints a dark picture of a dark person. You know? Perhaps Dark Horse wasn't a pop hit, perhaps it was Katy Perry, just as she had in the song Peacock, telling us who she really was and what she was really about. And who is that person? Who is the real Katy Perry? That's where you and I are gonna pick back up next week for the second and final installment in the series, the dark side of Katy Perry. This it's just too long. I'm already I'm already closing it on an hour. Um, so we're I'm gonna break this up into two parts. Um, next week, I'm gonna take you through the twisted world of Katy Perry's associations because the people who Katie Perry has consistently kept around her, I think adds so much more flavor and context to this story because we're talking evangelical Republican parents. We're talking a marriage with an alleged rapist who was allegedly committing his worst crimes at the same time that Katie was allegedly committing her worst sexual assaults. We're gonna go, we're gonna, we're gonna go through it all. We're gonna walk through the web of Katie's shadiest dealings, and then I'm gonna give you the facts on what this all comes down to. Narcissism. Because Katie Perry is indeed a dark horse, darker than we all realized. From her obvious problems with boundaries to the harrowing stories from those who have encountered her, she has long been painting a picture of someone who doesn't see others as equals, someone who sees others as things to be played with, to add to her collection. And perhaps that explains why Katy Perry appears like such a petulant child, a toddler who tosses her toys out of the pram and they no longer please her. I know some people claim it's not that deep, right? They'll be listening to this right now, going, it's not that deep, it's not that deep, but it is, and simply it must be because the pattern is clear. It's in the lyrics that talk about forcing a man into sexual contact, it's in groping barely legal teens, it's in working with accused rapists, right-wingers, Zionists, and planet and society destroying billionaires. It is that deep, sadly, and it will remain that deep until abusers and manipulators like Katy Perry are held accountable for their patterns. And maybe this is a start. I I don't know. I hope it is. Not just of seeing Katie for who she is, I would love that, but for seeing the entirety of the celebrity machine for what it is and the kind of people it raises to seats of power on the inside. The celebrity machine is dangerous, and Katie Perry is a part of that machine. And that's exactly what we're gonna get into in next week's episode. But that is gonna be it for today's episode. 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