The Kardashians (Part IV): Kim, There's People That Are Dying

This week, Connie and I close this chapter on the Kardashian family saga. 

We're talking the O.J. Simpson trial, Robert Kardashian's infamous 1996 deposition, the Kardashian Kard scam, California Community Church, that time Caitlyn Jenner killed someone, and more. 

If you can't see who the Kardashians are by the end of this episode...you don't want to. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Scandal Queens. It is me, EB, the D influencer you love or love to hate, and I am back, back, back with another great episode for you today. That is right. We have reached the end. Thank fucking Christ. The Mac Daddy episode in this four-part deep dive series into the Kardashian slash Kartrashian family. And I am joined today for this final leg by my dear, dear friend Connie, who's joining us from the other side of the world. Hello, Connie.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

Hello. How are you? And there's people dying, Kim. There's people dying.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

There's people dying, Kim. Yes, that is definitely going to be the theme of today. Because there's lots of death. There is at least three deaths in this episode that we know of for sure, 100% concrete, that you can tie Kardashian affiliates to. And so that's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to talk about today. And we've covered a lot so far, right? We've delved into the Kardashian family's ties to the early Pentecostal movements, specifically their ties to Avok Hagopian and William Branham movements today, which, by the way, have become a part of the latter reign, the NAR, and the Seven Mountains Mandate, which Lou Taylor is a part of. We've also covered the shadowed history of Great Western packing, which Uncle Tom got arrested for in the 1970s, as well as Uncle Robert Kardashian, which is a different Robert Kardashian. And we've covered Papa Robert Kardashian's Kim's daddy. We've covered his strange ties to the American music industry in the 70s and 80s. But today it's the meat. It's it's the stuff you've been waiting for. It's not really good stuff, it's pretty horrible stuff. But um the black marks on the family's track record that, in my personal opinion, undeniable. So buckle up Buttercup because this is it. The crimes of the Kardashian family in black and white. It's gonna be deep, it's gonna be nasty, and it's gonna be mind-boggling and probably pretty long. So uh get comfy, lock in. We got a low-rent Sopranos family to cover. Are you ready, Connie?

SPEAKER_03 2:17

I personally don't like eating green mushy made, but I'm here for this.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

That's definitely what it is. Rotten, rotten, rotten, rotten. Because we're starting off right off the top with OJ Simpson, the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson, Ronald Goldman, and the trial of the century. So when we left off last episode, Chris Kardashian and Robert Kardashian, horrible relationship. He was making her listen to housewife tapes. She was cheating with Todd Waterman and then allegedly beating the kids. Um they had just divorced. It was 1991. They had had a couple years of back and forth, but they had settled, amicable terms, signed off on the split. Chris gets married soon after. I think she gets married in 1991, like right after the divorce is finalized, but it might be 1992. She gets married to Bruce Jenner, who is living as Bruce Jenner at the time, um, who is a famous Olympian. Very, very, very famous. Because I uh Chris obviously has a type, right? She had that pro golfer in the beginning, then she cheated with Todd Waterman, who's a soccer player, and then Bruce Jenner. So I think she must have a type. But um if you just left the story there, it sounds pretty good, right? Because the the Kardashian family, it's like, okay, right, some shady. He's working with some people who might have ties to the mafia. They didn't treat each other very well. Okay, right, not that big of a deal. But even Chris and Robert said the years following their divorce were peaceful and they were kind of friends, easy street stuff, but that all detonated, detonated in 1994 with a scandal that the family would not be able to distance themselves from. On June 12th, 1994, the bodies of Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman were discovered outside of Nicole's Brentwood, California home. Well, late on the 12th, early on the 13th. It was a horrific, horrific scene. Both individuals had been attacked viciously with a knife. Nicole had 12 total stab wounds in her body, including a wound to the neck that had nearly decapitated her. They could see her larynx through the wound, and it had actually the knife had um incised her cervical vertebrae in the back.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

You gotta be strong to make that kind of look of cut to the Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

They didn't realize she was that wounded when they moved the body, and so when they picked her up to move the body, the head almost fell off. Oh my god. Her head almost fell off because of how yeah, yeah. Um, but there were not many defensive wounds on her, which is like wounds to the hands and the arms trying to grab the knife and things like that, which means she was attacked very, very swiftly. Um, Ronald Goldman, who was a friend, acquaintance, he worked at a restaurant that Nicole and her family used to go to quite a lot. He was discovered nearby and he had sustained more than 20 blows from the knife, mostly to the head, the neck, and the chest. Um, and he had very few defensive wounds as well, which again means the police said a very quick surprise attack. There are a lot more details into this. It's again, it's a whole, it's a huge thing. We could spend hours just going into the details of this case, the crime scene. It's horrible. The way the police processed it is horrible. What happened is absolutely horrible. It's just awful. There's endless books and documentaries, if you want that, that will go into it and document both the crime scene and the trial. But our focus today is Robert Kardashian and how he figured into these events. Um, because he did. He did way more. I think people are just like, oh, well, he just defended his friend at trial. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's so intimately involved with this case. It is absolutely mind-blowing. Because as you'll remember, Nicole Brown and O.J. Simpson were close personal friends of Robert and Chris Kardashian. Like, close, close, close. That's why we spent so much time talking about it. Um, since the late 1970s, when they met at Harry Rothschild's house, it turns out, the Simpsons and the Kardashians had become intimately intertwined. Robert and OJ by 1994 owned three to four businesses together. Okay. Family vacation together. They went to barbecues and social events together and all the same circles. Chris herself has documented in the years following her shopping trips to New York City with Nicole Brown Simpson and Nicole Brown Simpson's children. Intimately close. I've posted some of the pictures on Patreon. You can go and just look up like OJ Simpson Kardashian family vacation photos, and it's it's endless because they like went on family vacations every year together and spent holidays together and all this kind of stuff. It is these decades-long intimate family ties that brought Robert Kardashian into the limelight of what would become what they called the murder trial of the century, less than 12 hours after Nicole Brown Simpson's body had been discovered. He's he's in there less than 12 hours after the murders. So Robert Kardashian comes into the Simpson murder trial literally immediately. Nicole Brown Simpson gets murdered on the night of the 12th. We're going to be really timeline heavy here. And I should also probably preface this by saying all the information I'm about to share with you, this comes from the 1996 deposition of Robert Kardashian. This information is from Robert Kardashian himself. Okay, so that that's it's all on Patreon. You can find it there. But Nicole Brown murdered on the night of the 12th, and then just after midnight on the 13th, literally at like 12:30, her body is discovered by neighbors who find her blood-covered dog barking in the street. They find her blood-covered dog. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yeah. Her dog, it turns out, uh, Nicole's dog was standing out in the street, covered up, covered in blood up to its chest, like its legs were covered in blood. And it was standing outside the gate, facing the gate, barking, barking, barking, barking, barking. And the local dog walker saw it and said, Oh, hey, come with me. And he took the dog back with him. But the dog was upset, so he took the dog back to Nicole's house. Didn't notice two bodies outside, apparently, like just inside the gate. Couldn't get anyone to come to come to the main gate. So then he took the dog to the neighbor's house, the next door neighbors, and they said, Right, well, we'll keep them until we we hear from Nicole. But the dog was, again, covered in blood and so agitated that the neighbors went, right, we got to take it back. We're just gonna put it in the yard. And when they went to do that, that's when they discovered her body. So it was like 12 30, 1258, something like that. Really, really crazy. That same night, the same night of the murders, okay. OJ Simpson had seen Nicole earlier that night. They went to the graduation, like an elementary school graduation of his daughter. About an hour and a half after the murders took place, O.J. Simpson catches a flight to Chicago from LAX that leaves at like 11:45, 11:58 p.m. Uh, to go star in a celebrity golf tournament for Hertz, who he is the poster boy for. So this is the same night as the murders, and this is when Kardashian enters the story. According to his deposition, which was part of OJ Simpson's civil trial in 1996, on the morning of June 13th, Robert Kardashian was contacted by who we don't know, because he does not disclose that in his deposition, which probably means we can assume it was OJ. He's called the morning of the 13th and alerted that OJ Simpson is on his way home to his Brentwood mansion because the police have demanded it and Nicole has been killed. Very, very, very fucking shady. Absolutely insane. This is like before most of the world knows about this. Robert Kardashian knows she's dead and he's on his way to Rockingham Estate. Later that morning, news gets bigger and bigger and bigger, bigger and bigger and bigger. Media starts to gather outside the home. OJ eventually shows up, but Robert Kardashian is somehow there 15, 20 minutes before him. OJ Simpson gets out of the car. He's got a black duffel bag. He walks straight into the house. Straight, straight, straight into the house. His assistant gets out of the car with a garment bag that Robert Kardashian ends up taking, which is going to be really, really, really significant. Because here's the thing these two garment bags, especially, that OJ Simpson came home from Chicago with the morning after Nicole's murder. These could have contained murder weapons. They could have contained bloody clothes. They could have contained any amount of evidence because OJ Simpson departed with these bags basically immediately after the murders occurred. There's a there's again, there's a bunch of other shady stuff in between, like a driver that couldn't find him during the time of the murders. There's a lot of stuff. But these bags could have contained really, really crucial evidence. And Robert Kardashian ends up taking one of these bags in front of cameras. He's filmed doing this. He takes one of the garment bags and puts it in the trunk of his car. I kid you fucking not. And he he later in the deposition, he's gonna say, Oh, well, I tried to give it to police, but it was filmed. The media filmed him taking this garment bag that is potentially evidence less than 12 hours after Nicole has been murdered and puts it in the trunk of his car. Absolutely fucking nuts. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And it's not even the first time it's gonna happen, is what's really crazy. Connie, you look mind-boggled. Yeah, yeah, not the first time it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

How? How is how is no one alerting anyone? Like, no one should be taking anything from any vehicle at any part. Like the the cops should have swarming that car, the sneaking RJ come out.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

No one should. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. And Robert Kardashian in the deposition says, Well, uh, they they corner him on this. They're like, right, so your friend is suspected of murder. He gets out of the car with multiple bags of evidence, potentially, and you take one and you put it in your car. You didn't try to give it to the police, and Robert Kardashian eventually says, Oh, well, I did. I went, I went and walked up to the police and said, You here you should take this, but they just said, No, you can't come in. Which it which later, as we'll talk about, Robert Kardashian's going to admit that he had a second piece of luggage that was potentially from that same night in Chicago that he goes with OJ. It's a whole thing, but he has a whole nother bag of luggage that he doesn't report. It's fucking shady, shady, shady, shady. So, OJ Simpson, less than 12 hours after the murder of his ex-wife, this is the morning of the 13th, still, he comes home from Chicago. Robert Kardashian takes one of his luggage bags, puts it in the back of his car. Now, the following four days basically spiral into a media nightmare. The 13th through the 17th is so fucking critically important, and especially if you're trying to understand Robert Kardashian's role, and it is a media nightmare. OJ Simpson becomes the center of every news report. Uh, and the bloody steps of I will never forget this is because I was in like kindergarten when this was going on, and I rem I will never forget the bloody steps because she had these like orange terracotta tile steps, and there was just these puddles of blood all over the steps and all over these like terracotta pathway steps, and it was horrific, horrific, horrific, horrific. It's everywhere. It's on every magazine, every newspaper, every news station. That's all they're talking about. The police take OJ into custody that morning after he comes home from Chicago and they question him for two to three hours. They release him on the 13th, and guess who's there to greet him? Guess who's there to welcome him back home? Robert Kardashian. Yeah, Bobert Kardashian. According to Robert Kardashian, on the afternoon of the 13th, again, less than 24 hours after Nicole's murder, he and a bunch of other attorneys and business managers, partners, and friends rush over to OJ's office and they all sit there for hours in this meeting. That again, in the deposition, Robert Kardashian refuses to disclose what's being talked about. But what he does disclose is that he sits there and answers the phone. He talks to Marcus Allen and all these other people during this time, the Shapiro's, a whole, a whole parade of shady motherfuckers. On the evening of the 13th, again, less than 24 hours after the murder of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman, Robert Kardashian leaves OJ's office with OJ and goes with OJ to his home. So he's he's still with him. He's still with him. And here's something that I think is really, really critical. In his 1996 deposition, Kardashian later claimed that on the night of the 13th, right, the night after the murders, while at OJ's home, he noticed that one of OJ's hands was badly injured. According to Kardashian, on that night, the 13th, he noticed that there was a badly swollen knuckle and a horrific cut that like split between his fingers, which is a common area where you get slippage wounding when you're stabbing someone, right? That's crazy. In the 1996 deposition, Kardashian kind of tells this story as though, oh, I was suspicious. And I asked him about it, and it really unsettled me. But I just chose to believe my friend. But that's that that's not the story he was singing in 1994, right? When the original trial happened. When the original trial happened, after the 13th, the whole fucking time, six months, he sat there and went, no, no, no, he's innocent. I know for a fact he's innocent. He's never done anything wrong. He's innocent, he's innocent, he's innocent. But then we have him admitting in 1996, oh yeah, the morning after his wife was murdered with a knife, I noticed he had pretty bad cuts and like injuries to his hands. Fucking diabolical. Diabolical. By the 14th, OJ had all been like butt convicted in the court of public opinion. Because right away people are like, he did it, he he did it, he killed her, he killed her. Because details about his his former relationship with his ex-wife started to flood the media during this time, right? So by the second day, the 14th, you've got the story of this 1989 New Year's event coming back up. And what happened in 1989 was that Nicole ended up calling the police frantic, saying OJ had beaten her and he was gonna kill her. When the police show up to their home, she's hiding in the bushes, her lip is split, she's all scratched up, and she's hysteric saying, OJ's in the house, he's gonna kill me. Please don't let him find me. In 1989, OJ went to trial for this. It was a huge public affair, and he put no contest to spousal abuse. So this was this was public. This was public guys in 89.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

What we know about domestic abuse and escalation, just like with serial killers, there is escalation with abuse and it and worse and worse and worse. But for for anyone to ignore this and then let her continue to stay in a domestic abuse situation, like I hope they can't fucking sleep.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

It's crazy. And that wasn't the only time. There was multiple instances after that, um, between 89 and 94 when she was murdered. Then Nicole contacted the police. She was telling her friends she wasn't hiding because he was gonna kill her. Like, just horrific, horrific stuff. She's she was documenting it in a journal. She had taken Polaroids of herself that she was keeping in a safe deposit box. Family said from 1978 on they regularly saw her with broken arms, black eyes, busted lips, like face with rug burn and nail gouges in it and stuff like that. Like he beat the shit out of her all the time. All the time. And it as you said, it escalated, it escalated, it escalated. And the Kardashians still to this day claim they never saw shit, which is a fucking lie. I'm sorry. That is a fucking bullshit lie. They never saw shit. I there's those kinds of men that escalate to this point, they they don't hide that shit around their closest friends and buddies. They they do not. I don't care what people say. They show toxic shit. They may not do it all the time, and they may not literally punch their partner like right in the eye, but they scream at them, they yell at them, they belittle them, they talk shit to them in front of people when it's this extreme.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

There's usually a an amount of fear that they create in their friends as well. And it's that whole like it's not I don't know if it's the bystander effect or that whole like fear of doing something about it, or the like intensity of their rage will be directed at the friend instead, and it's just safer for them to just let it keep happening because at least they're being yelled at by this person, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

And of course, the Karnashians were making a lot of money off of OJ. He was the face of their little frozen yogurt business, and he was like the face of their little cinema concert business, and all these little side businesses that were backed by Azov and all this shit. So they were making a lot of money off of him. They don't want the juice going to jail because then, you know, there's only limited things they can sell if he's in prison and they're gonna lose like Hertz sponsorships and whatever else they're making money off of him with. So it's it's it's crazy. So according to Kardashian, OJ by this point is manic. June 14th, about 18 hours after Nicole Brown's murder, Kardashian takes OJ Simpson to the airport where OJ picks up golf clubs and a bag, like another duffel bag carrier bag that had gone with him to Chicago. And remember, by this point, Robert Kardashian still has one of OJ's other garment bags from that trip in his car. He actually switches them between his two cars. It's in the Rolls-Royce ones, and then he says he moves it to another car, and then it ends up in his daughter's bedroom. Very, very fucking murky stuff. Very, very fucking murky stuff. So they pick up the bags on the 14th from the airport. Robert Kardashian drives O.J. Simpson back to OJ Simpson's home, but the media is so bad that Robert says, Okay, you know what, buddy, don't stay here. You can't stay here. You need to come home and stay with me. And this is where it gets so murky. It's so murky. And if you read the deposition, you'll understand what I'm saying. Around June 14th, O.J. Simpson packs up some bags, goes with Robert Kardashian to his family home. Kardashian claims that the former football player was a mess, just was like fluctuating and saying crazy stuff. Of course, he would never divulge what he was saying, but there were people constantly around him, and the media machine was was uh like the Kardashian Shapiro media machine was already trying to move around and make statements to kind of defend him to the press, but it didn't matter. The cracks were starting to show. Somewhere around the 15th or the 16th of June, three to four days after the murders, OJ allegedly tries or threatens to kill himself in Kim Kardashian's bedroom. She's not home at the time, but she's 13 years old, and he allegedly tries to kill himself in her bedroom, which is a story the family still tells. Very odd. Um, but Robert says he talks him out of it.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

I'm yet to meet someone who in these sorts of situations and in like even like less, but still like you're going, you're probably going to jail stories where they end up threatening to kill themselves because they know they're gonna end up in jail.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yeah, got nothing else to lose, right? Like at that point. So after Robert Kardashian talks OJ Simpson out of killing himself in Kim Kardashian's childhood bedroom, um, he allegedly, this is when OJ leaves another bag inside one of the children's bedrooms, another duffel bag. And we're not sure if this is the one that was picked up with the golf bags or not, because Robert Kardashian really fuzzes this up. But another luggage bag is left in the Kardashian home during this kind of little saga. And Chloe jokes about it. If you if you don't think if you think I'm lying and you don't want to go and read 120 plus pages of deposition, just go and Google Chloe Kardashian talking about like luggage evidence being left. Because she jokes about it on a podcast years ago. She's like, Yeah, there used to just be one of OJ Simpson's bags in my closet, and we just knew not to open it. He he he. There may have been evidence in it. He he he. Like just ridiculous, ridiculous shit. Yeah, Connie, that's that's the face.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Oh, yeah. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Yeah, awful, awful. So by the night of the 16th, right? We're now basically four days after the murder, it becomes clear that OJ Simpson is the most likely party responsible and that the police are gonna come get him. It's like very, very, very, very obvious. It's increasingly clear. Now, here's what is direly fucking important that everyone needs to understand because it's so fucking shady. Somewhere in this window of time, right, between the night the 13th and the night of the 16th, the night before OJ Simpson gets arrested, Robert Kardashian reactivates his attorney license. He has not practiced law in years. Years. He has not practiced law since the 1970s. And when he did practice law, if you'll remember, he was with Emer and Bedrossian, who did corporate law and then they expanded into private medical, private health care, right? He was not a criminal lawyer, although he will say he defended a DUI case once. He was not a criminal attorney, okay? But somewhere in these four days, the night before OJ Simpson gets arrested, he reactivates his attorney license and immediately is granted what is called attorney client privilege, which means anything OJ has said to him about the murders, he no longer has to divulge. He doesn't have to tell police, he doesn't have to testify about it, nothing because he's OJ's attorney and that is attorney client privilege, and it lasts forever until OJ dies, until Robert Kardashian dies, forever unless OJ Jay legally waves it. Very fucking shady. Because suddenly 25 plus years of friendship and potential witness abuse no longer has to be shared with the court because that suddenly becomes a part of this case. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

Right. And because he's been friends with him for so long and he's so close to him, he's probably seen all of that. And if he didn't have that client attorney privilege, the courts could have pulled him up and said him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yep. Wow. But suddenly when he was his attorney, his part of his defense counsel, nope, and he could go in and out of the prison, visit OJ as much as he wanted after he was arrested, all that kind of stuff. All that kind of stuff. So very shady. Somewhere in that four days, Robert Kardashian reactivates his license and allegedly takes on a case that he's got no fucking experience or business representing. So just before noon, on June 17th, 1994, OJ Simpson is still at Robert Kardashian's house. The police show up. They surround the Kardashian home, because that's where OJ was originally going to be arrested. At fucking Robert Kardashian's house, they surround the home to arrest OJ. But guess what? Turns out he's gone. He's escaped. He's somehow been tipped off, and he's been picked up in a white Ford Bronco by his friend Al Cowlings. And they escape just before the police arrive at the Kardashian home. Again, not pointing any fingers, but it's fucking weird. It's fucking suspicious. We'll never know. We'll never know what happened. But what we do know is that what followed was the two-hour low speed chase with police and a long driveway standoff that resulted in OJ finally getting arrested. But here's what blew my mind, right? You know that that white Bronco chase that everybody knows, that famous picture of the white Bronco being followed by the police down the highway.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Wasn't there like a whole doesn't that wasn't that like broadcasted? Am I wrong with that?

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Yeah, no, it was all over every news channel basically in the world because it was two hours of them chasing OJ around Greater LA.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

Pizza places had like way more business because no one wanted to leave the house and everyone was ordering pizza.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah, yeah. It was it was a spectacle. I remember seeing it. I remember seeing it as a kid. It was a big fucking deal. Um, guess who was on the phone with OJ while he was holding a gun to his head, threatening to kill himself in the car? Bobbert. Bobert Kardashian was on the phone with him in the car while he was babbling. God knows what. God knows what. God, I'm I get so mad about this. I'm so mad because he never had to divulge any of this because he's he's now under attorney client privilege. He doesn't have to divulge any anything that gets said. So, because as as of the 17th, as I said, OJ was officially arrested and charged with the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman after he finally brings the white Bronco to a stop in the driveway of his home and he's arrested. Robert Kardashian, after years of not practicing law, pops up, says, I'm I'm part of his legal counsel, and I don't have to I don't have to tell you anything, but you're gonna see my face a whole lot, a whole lot. Because as much as Robert Kardashian didn't want to talk about his relationship with OJ Simpson, he sure the fuck did want to be on TV a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. And he literally went on TV hours after OJ's arrest and read a rambling suicide note from from Mr. OJ Simpson. Let's let's listen to a short clip of Robert Kardashian getting himself on TV and starting himself a new little a new little uh career of bullshit. Here we go.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Was written by OJ today to whom it may concern. First, everyone understand I have nothing to do with Nicole's murder. I loved her, always have, and always will. If we had a problem, it's because I love her. I loved her so much. Recently we came to the understanding that for now we were not right for each other. At least for now.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

We'll just we'll just we'll just we'll stop there because I think that's yeah, language of the abuser, am I right?

SPEAKER_04 26:03

Oh my fucking god. Holy fucking shit. Yeah, what what did I just hear? Yeah, oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Oh my god, that is holy shit, biscuits. I loved her too much. That is the most abuser-coded bullshit. I loved her so much that I had to beat the shit out of her.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Bango, that's exactly what I thought.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

What the f I love you, so I'm gonna hit you, you sucking bitch.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Yeah, and try to kill you. Yeah, yep. What the f was that, dude? Holy shit. Yep, that's what I thought. And that's like the first five seconds of the letter. Uh, it's the start of a new career for Robert Kardashian, right? Because he ends up on TV basically every other week for the next fucking four years or something. Absolutely, absolutely just absurd. But that's the first thing I thought when I heard that as well. I was like, that's the language of an abuser. And the fact as well that he comes out right off the bat and says, I didn't do it, and all that bad stuff that you've hear that you hear that I've done to her, it's because I loved her too much. It's because I loved her too much. It's of it's fucking it's absurd. And the fact that Robert Kardashian is like, yeah, no, I'm gonna get on TV and read this, also shows that to him, this is this is because remember, he's defending OJ at this point. He thinks this is like a good thing. He thinks that this is good language, he thinks this is a good thing to say. He doesn't see any red flag in any of this rambling suicide note denial that he reads.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

An abuser too.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Bingo, bingo, bingo, bingo. 100% abusers protecting fucking abusers. I'm sure Robert knocked Chris around as well. I'm sure he looked at his friend's a fucking murderer, you know.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

With that response, of course he did.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Yeah, and he's little, he's a little man, little little tiny, little teen tiny man, little teen tiny man. You know how they get, you know how they can get. So, what would follow that moment? That's the 17th. He gets on TV and reads that. Um, as it was titled then, the murder trial of the century, and Robert Kardashian is one of OJ's defense team, becomes central to it all. And again, I'm not gonna go into the full details of the trial here. It's crazy. If you're listening to this, you probably already know anyway. But O.J. Simpson was eventually found not guilty of both counts of murder in the federal trial, but he did go on to be found liable of the murders in the civil trial, which is the same as guilty in the civil trial. Um, and and he had to pay the Goldman's and Nicole Brown's family like $33 million or $35 million or something like that. But Robert Kardashian, per his own words, throughout the trial, acted as a quote, liaison between OJ and the defense team. He visited OJ in prison on an almost daily basis, and any day he wasn't there, Robert Kardashian g sent his little paralegal woman to sit with OJ Simpson 24 hours a day inside jail. 24 hours a fucking day. Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_03 28:53

I hear the liaison part, and I'm like, so you were the filter.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Yeah, he was just running around listening to everything. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. Absorbing all the confessions, I'm sure. Because he had claimed attorney client privilege, Kardashian was able to avoid any questions into any conversations he had ever had with OJ. He didn't have to testify about any abuse he potentially witnessed. He lied about it anyway. He denied, oh, I never saw anything. I saw them get into a verbal altercation just one time in the 20 years we were friends. Bullshit. Um, and he didn't share any information um that he was given by OJ in the days after the murders either. If when if and when you go and read the deposition, you will be in fucking furiated, just like the counsel for Nicole Brown's family is, because Kardashian and his counsel essentially, every time there's a question about OJ, no matter what, they could say, What was the weather like when you were outside with OJ? And they'll say, Not talking about it, privileged information. They won't talk about fucking anything. And they really incriminate themselves several times because Kardashian's uh counsel throughout the 96 deposition says things like, We're not gonna tell you that, because if he says that, that could indicate truth or untruth, and we're not gonna put him in that position. It's very, very, very, very shady. It's very, very shady. But that attorney client privilege is particularly important because during the course of the trial, it came out that Nicole had been physically abused by OJ for the whole of their relationship. She met him when she was 18. She was a waitress in a um restaurant in Beverly Hills. She was 18. Robert was with OJ when he met her. Uh, Nicole allegedly told friends that they had an encounter that night, and OJ was so aggressive with her, the 18-year-old, that he ripped her clothing in the process. So the aggression started right away. Uh, between 1978 and 1985, when they got married, her friends and family saw her with a broken arm, black eyes, cuts, scrapes. Uh, they saw in the interior of the house really fucked up where he had put her head through a wall or he had put his fist through a wall. For the whole time, there was just obvious abuse. It was, it was this this is not like some little sneaky snakey narcissist who's just doing psychological and emotional and like screaming and yelling behind closed doors. This is somebody who was regularly beating his wife to a fucking pulp. And I'm sorry, you you're not you don't not see that.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

What's the age gap between RJ and Nicole?

SPEAKER_00 31:19

I think it's 10, 10 years, maybe a little bit less. Maybe a little bit less. Because he was younger than Robert Kardashian.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

No, still icky. It's still gross.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

He was a grown man out of college and in business with Robert Kardashian. He met her in 78.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

So if you can't if you can't date in the like three to five years around you when you're like, you know, when you're when you could still, you know, you're you're only 10 years out of the teen gap or whatever. If you're still dating in the teen gap, you're disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

He would have been at least 10 years older than her because he graduated college, I think, in the late 60s, maybe the early 70s, and she was 18 and 78. So, you know, it had to be older than her by at least like 10 years, I would assume. Um, so yeah, there was there, it turns out in trial, tons and tons and tons of abuse. Of course, Robert Kardashian and the rest of the council the whole time, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's innocent. You guys misunderstand everything. They get a bunch of evidence blocked, like her, she had kept journals, Nicole kept journals for years and years and years that documented, like, OJ put my head through a wall today, or OJ broke my arm, or OJ said he was gonna kill me. And uh they basically said she's a crazy woman who was emotional, so you can't use her diaries in court because it's all nonsense because she's just a hysterical woman. So that wasn't allowed to be used in the federal trial, but it was in the civil trial. They let everything be used in the civil trial. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

I want the word to be banned so badly.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

It's very, very bad. So Robert Kardashian wrote his attorney client privilege to the grave, and he also wrote the fame wave, too. On the back of O.J. Simpson trial, he allegedly made millions, so much money that when he was questioned about it on Barbara Walters, he said, I don't feel comfortable talking about my finances. I'm not comfortable disclosing with you how much I've been paid to do stuff. But we know a little bit because according to Wayne Hughes, a billionaire who's also a funder of OJ Simpson, very fucking shady, in the deposition, he got questioned during the civil trial. And he said Robert Kardashian was being paid $3,000 a day by the O.J. Simpson estate for legal services rendered during the trial. After the trial, as confirmed on a 1996 Barbara Walters interview, Kardashian was also paid a fee for his controversion, her his controversial contributions. I should I could have I could have done better than that, um, to the book American Tragedy, the uncensored story of the OJ Simpson defense by Lawrence Schiller, which is like a tabloid slop, just making more money off these murders kind of book. Schiller, of course, was also questioned during the 1996 civil trial, and he revealed that Kardashian himself was also shopping a book that he had written. So he wanted to get paid even more because he wanted to write his own book about what he had done. And he went on a huge, huge, huge press tour as well during this time in 1996. Um, and oh 1994, 1995, and 1996, Kardashian was on press tours, presumably getting compensated well because he's on major, major shows like Dateline, 2020, Court TV, Larry King. You know, he's doing personal home interviews with Barbara Walters. He ain't doing that shit for free. He didn't doing any of that shit for free. And all the while it's all OJ, OJ, OJ, OJ, OJ. And despite all the money it made him, the trial still split the family. And we know this because during the trial, around nine late '94, maybe even into 1995, he wrote a letter to Chris saying, you've got to stop splitting this family because she supposedly sided against OJ. And he wrote this letter saying, you know, OJ's innocent. We have to unite our family over this. So he's seeing split knuckles and he's writing letters to his family saying we gotta defend OJ. The whole thing is fucking muddy, shady, and gross. It's very the whole thing, just gross. So while Robert Kardashian dodged any real accountability for his involvement and potentially hiding evidence for OJ Simpson, he would be held to the flames in '96 during that deposition that we've been talking about. And this deposition is important because by 1996, Robert Kardashian suddenly, suddenly, when he's involved in the civil trial, starts singing a completely different tune about OJ Simpson and his innocence. In the deposition, which again, it's like 120 pages long. Video's never been released, never ever been released for some reason. We have Britney Spears' whole horrifically sad, awful arrest videos, which are heartbreaking to listen to. Um, but we we can't see Robert Kardashian testifying about his involvement with OJ Simpson. Um, he relies heavily on this attorney-client privilege, as I've said, but he really, I think, accidentally outlines this kind of cohesive organization around OJ and attempts to get him knowingly, consciously out of trouble when they know that he's done a fucking crime. And there are two, if you go and read this deposition, there are two big things that I really want you to pay attention to. Number one, at the top of the deposition, the counsel for the families of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman tell Kardashian that the deposition is going to be used to potentially impeach him. And what that means is lose his license as a lawyer forever, but also potentially charged with a crime himself. Like when if a lawyer gets impeached and it's found that they are like criminally liable, they can be held accountable for that. So that's a big scary, which is why I think he starts singing a different tune. The second big thing, if you go and read these depositions, that I think you should pay attention to is there is this moment when his counsel claims attorney client privilege in regards to a conversation that he and OJ are having. Robert Kardashian says, I talked to OJ on the phone, we're talking about our children. Counsel for Nicole Brown's family says, Oh, what did you guys say about your children? To which Robert Kardashian's counsel comes back and says, Objection, privileged information. And the counsel for Nicole Brown, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

If it's privileged information, then it's to do with the thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

So the counsel for Nicole Brown goes, Well, how is a conversation about their children privileged information? Like, we're just trying to establish how friendly are they? Like, how would the children have anything to do with with the with the trial? And the counsel's like, doesn't matter. If you've got a problem with it, we can get a judge. Or if you want to just stop this deposition, we can get a judge and you guys can fight about whether it's privilege or not, but we're claiming privileged information.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

Now isn't the only thing to do with the son?

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Yes, that's exactly why this is important. Bingo, bingo, bingo, bingo. So this is important because there has long been a thought, a conspiracy, that OJ Simpson's oldest son from his previous relationship, Jason, who was in his 20s at the time of this, there's long been suspicion that he either committed the murders or was involved somehow with the murders because he was a sous chef. He carried knives on him. There's a discrepancy about when he checked out of work that night and how he signed out of work. Again, you can go down that rabbit hole if you want to go down it. But it is interesting that there seems to be a lot of pieces fit that Jason could have helped his dad or could have been involved in it. And then it's very interesting in this deposition, suddenly in 1996, Robert Kardashian claims that conversation about O.J. Simpson's children are off limits because it's privileged information, aka it has something to do with legal advice or the crime. So if you go with the theory that Jason, his child, did it, then you could potentially apply this moment in the deposition where Robert Kardashian says, not talking about his kids, it's privileged information. That could potentially fit. In my personal opinion, I've never seen anybody talk about that moment, but for me, it that's what that kind of smacks of.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

This makes me think when you were talking about the fact that the police said that it was a very surprise attack. Yes, both of them. Both of them possible, it means that one of the other, whoever was killed first, didn't have time to call out to the other and warn them.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Yeah, because no one heard screams that night. They heard the dogs barking starting at about 10 15, but no one heard screams, shouts for help, nothing. Yeah, that's what I think as well.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Um, and I know fuck all about this.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:15

But that that there, like that would indicate that there's no way for them to call out to each other. So they if if if if Jason helped, then they both went in at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Yeah, and I think basically Jason, I don't think he was ever really questioned by police or anything. I I don't think he was a major part. It was kind of just dismissed as leave OJ's children alone, which the two youngest one, I actually really respect the media. They left the two youngest babies alone. They didn't talk about them, they they didn't, they've left, they don't photographers don't follow them. They have been really respectful, by and large, of the Simpson kids, but it it it's it's a weird moment, and and it's a weird moment in the deposition when he says, I'm not talking about the kids, that's privileged information. It's very odd. It's very, very odd. But by the summer of 96, Robert Kardashian goes back on Barbara Walters. It's now like his second or third interview, and she goes into his house and she meets the kids and all this kind of stuff. But what's really interesting is when Robert Kardashian in 1996, a year after the trials, when he's standing up there with all the rest of them saying, If the gloves don't fit, you must have quit. By 1996, he's saying, Yeah, I think OJ was guilty. And actually, did you know that Shapiro, the head of the council, knew he was guilty and was gonna frame me as an accessory? He says that in a fucking interview. He says the whole defense team knew OJ Simpson was guilty, and they were trying all these different plans to get him off, and they were gonna frame me as an accessory. He says that to Barbara Walter, and it it smacks of a rat throwing everybody under the bus before he can get thrown under the bus. It it really almost feels like Robert Kardashian's trying to get ahead of a potential charge. Like, like he's heard someone might charge him as being an accessory because of all this hidden fucking potential evidence that is upstairs in his daughter's closet, and he's now gone on Barbara Walters to go, oh yeah, yeah. They used to joke about that, about me, you know, like they were gonna make me the accessory, but that's just so absurd because here I am telling you the truth. It's very rat-like. He's very, very, very rat-like. Robert Kardashian would die in 2003 from esophageal cancer. Uh, and according to those closest to him at the time, he would claim that his mind had changed completely. He believed now that OJ had murdered Nicole and Ron. And the people closest to Robert allege that he carried great guilt over his involvement in OJ's escape from justice. But if that's true, guess what? We'll never fucking know. Because the only thing we know that Robert Kardashian ever happily got on a television to tell the public over and over and over and over and over again was how convinced he was that his best buddy, his best pal, the murderer, was totally innocent of killing the woman that he had watched him abuse for years. So that's that's the OJ Simpson Robert Kardashian saga in a nutshell. In a nutshell. Yeah. And lying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lying, not speaking up on things he should have spoken up on, and then lying about shit he shouldn't have been lying about to steal money, and then he dies of throat cancer. It is very kind of you know poetic in a way. In a way. But yeah, it's it's murky, it's dirky, it's gross. I'm doing a breakdown of the um the deposition on Patreon if you're more into that, but you should definitely go and read it. It's it's not the story the Kardashians have painted. It's so fuck, it's just it's low rent mafia shit. Just low rent mafia shit. It's very gross. And two people died, and their murderer didn't really get, you know, there wasn't really justice for that. Even though OJ's now dead too, of cancer.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

I I think back to that moment where he's asking Chris to, you know, s uh stop splitting the family and making, you know, like choosing a different side than him. And we need to be on the same side, but yet he's like only just turning around and saying that he thinks OJ might be a killer at this other point. It's like, no, buddy, like you knew. Because only a would turn around and be like, no, we have to have a specific set of this, this, and this.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

He knew.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

He knew. I think he was just trying to probably preserve everything because eventually, eventually, this I'm not I'm not big enough. I don't have a big enough mouth. I don't have a big enough reach to to matter, but eventually, eventually, one day, someone who does have a big enough mouth and a big enough reach is gonna tell the truth about this story, and eventually it's gonna complete completely fucking destroy them. People inside of this are gonna reveal just how much they knew, how much they were involved in hiding shit, covering shit up consciously. All of this will it will all come out. It will all come out one day. Like all the na it always does. It always does, always ends up in books. So I don't know what the fuck they think they're gonna hide, but uh yeah. Pretty pretty pretty bad stuff. Um, this, in my opinion, was the darkest chapter for the Kardashians. After all, their wheeling and dealing, their defense of their, you know, celebrity murderer friends. Uh, it resulted in the death of a man and a woman, right? That's pretty fucking bad. It's kind of it's kind of hard to get worse than defending your friend who's murdered multiple people. Um, uh and you you do ask, like, to what extent did Robert enable that? To what extent did Chris enable it? Because protecting abusers, allowing them to carry on to escalate, keeping your mouth shut while they do escalate, that's enabling. It's fucking enabling. Um, but the Kardashians made a lot of money out of OJ, and they still do today, because they still talk about him in interviews. They still, Chris uh went in a magazine a couple years ago and was like, I was with Nicole when she bought the gloves that OJ was wearing when he murdered her. Just gross shit. They they still capitalize on it. It's really, really gross, but you know, it wasn't gonna be the end because, like, flies to shit, the Kardashians cannot stay away from a scandal or a crime for very, very long. In 2007, just four years after Robert Kardashian's passing, his second daughter, Kim, born in 1980, skyrocketed to viral fame after the quote unquote leak of her sex tape with music artist Ray J, the brother of much more popular recording artist Brandy. The sex tape made Kim a household name and came just three years after the sex tape of her boss and sometimes best friend, Paris Hilton. Kim rode the wave of notoriety as far as it would take her, quickly capitalizing on the moment to grab a reality television show just five months, five months after the release of her sex tape. Keeping up with the Kardashians aired in October of 2007. Her sex tape came out in March, and it only bumped up the notoriety of the already notorious family. Here's what's interesting though. Years later, so people are like, oh my god, somebody, a producer saw them and just went, You're so funny, and gave them a show. No. Years later in an interview, Ryan Seacrest revealed that by the time Kim released her sex tape in 2007, in March of 2007, Kim and her mother, Chris Jenner, had already been shopping around begging someone to give them a reality show for years, for years, because reality TV in America in the early 2000s was insane. It was big money, it was crazy shit. Everybody watched it. Every channel had its own stuff. I I really liked VH1, Rock of Love, Flavor of Love. Um, and she wanted that, got denied. No one wanted to work with them until the sex tape. Until the sex tape. And suddenly Chris was able to finally get a show for her for her darling little daughter after being rejected by several producers. Now, that story, people think, well, that's the story. Sex tape, famous. But here's what's really interesting. In 2025, Ray J, the ex who starred in the video, um, her co-star, Kim's co-star, came forward and claimed the whole tape was orchestrated and planned by Chris Jenner, Kim's mother. In May of 2026, he went on a podcast, like this month, he went on a podcast. Ray J went on another podcast and gave even more detail, saying that Chris knew about the whole thing and had even organized the quote-unquote leak through Vivid Entertainment, which is like the biggest distributor of pornography. Allegedly, the way it was supposed to come out is that they would film the video, they would give it to Vivid, and then Chris Jenner would file a fake lawsuit. Chris and Kim would file a fake lawsuit against Vivid to say, to make it look like they hadn't organized the whole thing. And then through that lawsuit, Vivid would quote unquote settle, and the settlement would be the payment for the video that was going to be distributed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very, very, very sketchy, sketchy, sketchy, sketchy stuff. But here's what's worse. In this recent interview, Ray J also said they had a meeting within hours of Chris getting the video. There was a meeting with executives, and when they left the meeting, Chris told him, Go and shoot it again. It's gotta be nastier this time. I want you to go and tear my daughter up on film and bring me the tape. Yeah. It's so gross. It's so gross. It's so gross.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

Like, first of all, if we go back to the earlier episodes, if you've been following along, Chris was pimped out by her mom. Yep. Oh find a rich man, make like take all of the money, keep finding rich men, that's what you do. And and now Chris is pimping out Kim just to get money because that's what she Yep.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Yep. Patterns, patterning, patterning, patterning, patterning, patterning. Um, and that's it's still part of the big kind of there's a huge lawsuit that's currently going on between Ray J and Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner because he says they're going up for Rico charges, the feds are coming for them, they traffic people, like which I don't I, you know, look, Ray J's got Ray J's got some issues. I'm not gonna deny that, but uh, I think Ray J is not lying about everything.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Um they have accusing them of the trafficking is very much like the movie style trafficking of like taking people across the border.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:55

When trafficking literally could be like picking a prostitute up and like taking her across state lines and then dumping like that's still classed as trafficking.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

So like Or even like what happened with Hayden Panetier has been talking about she was with who she thought was a friend who took her to a yacht party, and then that friend was like, Oh, uh, you're a little bit drunk. Like, why don't you go and get in bed? And her friend showed her to bed, and she thought at she was thinking she said she was 16 at the time. Her friend put her in bed and took her clothes off of her, and then Hayden rolled over and there was a grown man in the bed waiting for her. And she realized that her friend had been trying to traffic her. So that's kind of how the Hollywood thing works is like you end up best buddies with someone who you don't realize is a madam who's like, Oh my god, but like if you sleep if you let Diddy, you know, then like he'll he'll get you in the recording room. Like, that's how this trafficking happens in Hollywood. They promise opportunities, they promise drugs, you know. Oh, he'll really love you. You'll get close to him.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Don't drink the baby oil.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Don't drink the baby oil. Jesus, don't touch it, don't look at it. None of it. Um, but that of course would not be the end of the Kardashians. That was just the start of the Kardashians that we know today. In 2008, even though Kim and Ray J eventually split after the sex tape, and Kim vaulted to fame and all of that, her tangle with the Norwood family was not over because in 2008, Ray J and Brandy's mother came forward and accused the Kardashian siblings, specifically Kim, Courtney, Chloe, and Rob, of fraudulently charging more than $120,000 to one of Brandy's credit cards in their own stores. Which is fucking crazy. They had show, they had a show. Why did they need to, why did they need to charge Brandy's credit card in their stores? The events had occurred, according to Brandy and Ray J's mother, when Kim was working as Brandy's stylist pre-sex tape. Brandy had cleared Kim to make a single purchase of a single item of clothing, and the Kardashians just kept her credit card number and just kept using it. Uh, the suit was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount, but Sonia Norwood has recently rebirthed the allegations because in this new suit between Ray J and the Kardashians that's going on, it's now a defamation suit. Um, it she has now said, Yeah, I I was being kind. They had actually charged more than $850,000 to Brandy's credit cards over a number of years. So it was closer to a million that they stole from us. Very, very shady, very, very, very, very shady. Very shady. That that that whole chapter, I think, doesn't get enough attention that they were and this was all over the media. They settled that accord. This wasn't like tossed out, this got settled. They had to admit they were wrong and give this woman some money. Like what?

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Because you would rather it stop being in the public eye and you need it to go the fuck away because you know you're wrong.

SPEAKER_00 51:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

Like, yep.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Uh, that same year, the Kardashian siblings were being accused of credit card fraud. Khloe Kardashian also ended up kind of kind of going to jail. Uh, in 2007, the same year her sister's infamous sex tape came out, Khloe Kardashian was arrested, shit house hammered, uh, for a DUI driving while she was shit housed, uh, which was extensively documented uh in a sensational series of episodes on the show, which admittedly I have not watched. I've never seen an episode. We'll never watch an episode.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

One of my one of my step siblings was ruined to the show and it was always on. And I I remember that. It was so funny.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Yeah, yeah. It's uh it's always it's really nice when it happens to them. But um, by 2008, she got arrested because she got probation for the original DI DUI, violated it, violated it in 2008, uh, and was sentenced to 30 days in jail, of which she served a whopping three hours before being bailed out to go and take DUI education classes and some community. I don't even think she got community service. I I I don't know. It it to me is smacked of Uncle Tom Kardashian getting arrested for that felony bribery of the bad meat that their meatpacking factory was making. Uh and you know, he just got like a little $10,000 fine, and then the president pardoned him a few years later, so he didn't have to be in trouble for all the bad shit that he did. Um, it it smacks of that to me, but it fits into the usual. That's this is why I was telling people, they were like, Kim Kardashian did a cocaine. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They first of all, the Kardashians don't work hard enough to be drug dealers. Second of all, they like to do this like gray, this legally gray area shit where all they're gonna get is like a font. That's the way they move. They're not honest enough to be drug dealers, they don't work hard enough to be drug dealers, they are wasps, they do white Anglo-Saxon Protestant crimes.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

Like they're meant to be co-gang dealers.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

Yeah, yeah. Kim can't do the math. Kim can't do math well enough to be a drug dealer. Not a chance, not a chance, not happening, not a chance. So, yeah, Chloe got arrested for a DUI, goes to jail for three hours in 2008. But if you thought again that that was gonna be the last of the Kardashian crimes, brace yourselves because we're about to talk about my favorite fucking scam that this family ever. Um, this is people, this is this is the Pies de la Resistance, okay? Like this, this is humiliating. And if I had been a Kardashian sister, I would have gone out into the desert, buried my head in the sand, and never shown my face in public ever again. And I guarantee you, Robert Kardashian was rolling in his grave when this happened. What am I talking about? The Kardashian card, a chapter of history that most people are not aware of, but me, an angry millennial that hates the Kardashians, I know all about it. And we're gonna talk about it right now, right now to this day. The Kardashian card was launched in 2010. In 2010, and it is still to this day considered one of the most corrupt financial scams ever run by a celebrity in their own name. It's notorious. Forbes magazine, every so often, like every five years, will eventually put it on a list and be like, you remember the time the Kardashians did this ridiculous fucking thing? It was it was a scandal, it should have canceled them. I don't know why it didn't cancel them, but it should have. But essentially, here's what it was the Kardashian card was a prepaid debit card marketed to preteens and teenagers. So children. It was a prepaid Kardashian debit card marketed to children, and it featured a picture of the three Kardashian sisters on the front, and it was sold as a card that would teach your children how to manage money. But of course, you the Kardashians were the only ones getting any money out of this because the card came with a ton of hidden fees, super fucking scammy stuff. So you had to pay $9.95 to buy the card, and then you had to pay $7.95 a month to have the account. And then every time you used the card at an ATM, you had to pay $1.50 to them for that. And then if you wanted to do automatic bill pay, it was $2 per item that you were paying on the bill. And then every time you transferred money onto that card for your child, you had to pay a 2.5% transition fee, transaction fee of whatever amount you were putting on the card. And if you didn't like that, you wanted to close the account, gonna cost you six bucks to close the account. And to close the account, you had to talk to a real human being. But to do that, you had to pay $1.50 to speak to a human in customer service. Kid you fucking not. The card immediately, like literally less than 24 hours after it launched, scandal. Scandal.

SPEAKER_04 56:22

Teaching kids how to budget, it's teaching kids to never get a credit card on their life.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

Yeah, and teaching them how to teaching the smart ones how to steal, probably. The other wasps how to steal. It re the card immediately, like literally the next morning, it got scathing fucking reviews. Forbes still has their original, like ass ripping review up. I was just reading it yesterday. They've this horrible review up. Like, this is a fucking scam, and these are scammers. And don't, don't, do not buy this card. Do not buy this card. And there's still articles up, there's still people blogging about how the Kardashian card ruined their life because they racked up so much debt that they ended up having to pay interest on and all this other kind of stuff. People are still writing.

SPEAKER_03 57:01

Like this wasn't just like they they genuinely scammed people with it.

SPEAKER_00 57:05

Genuinely, genuinely, genuinely. But here's here's what makes me laugh. This makes me chuckle so fucking much. And I I think this in my head every time I get some idiot in my comments on TikTok going, You're just jealous because they're like business bosses. Kim Kardashian's a business genius. The card was pulled from market within 25 days. 25 days. They had to take the card off the market. You know, like it boggles. It boggles, it boggles the mind. A fucking Kardashian debit card. What I I uh Jesus. I think that's probably when that happened. That that was the first horseman of the apocalypse. I think. I think this was the first horseman of the apocalypse warning us of what was coming, and we didn't heed it well enough. That's what I think. That's what I think. That's the Kardashian card. That's a very fun chapter that a lot of people don't know about in their financial scams. And at least I don't I actually don't know. I don't know if any parents killed themselves over this. I don't know. I don't know if we have a body count tied to this. Like credit cards for kids. I just I can't I can't credit cards for children. What could go wrong? Launched by the woman with a big ass and a sex tape. What could go wrong? Daddy, knee deep in the mob, defended a murderer. Let's definitely get a credit card from those people for sure. For sure, for sure. To be fair, uh, you kind of you kind of go, well, the parents that bought this kind of fucking deserve it because how stupid are you to buy something from Kim Kardashian? You know? You know? But then we move on to another really fun chapter because it was right around this time of the Kardashian card, 2000, 2010. Uh it was in late 2009, Chris Jenner established a little thing called the California Community Church. Hmm. Isn't that so interesting? In late 2000, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Immediately takes red off.

SPEAKER_00 58:57

Yep. Yep. In late 2009, Chris Jenner launched a small prayer group and prayer services, and the services started to grow. So she named them Life Change Church and was quickly and very quietly in or incorporated as a religious organization who didn't have to pay their main taxes. Today, the church called the California Community Church, located in a fucking strip mall, because all the best churches are located in fucking strip malls, uh, it's a strange and secretive church that allegedly charges members a thousand dollars a month to be a part of the church, on top of tithing, which they're expected to tithe 10% of their income, apparently. It was started by Chris Jenner while married to Bruce Jenner, and no one will be surprised to learn that the church has multiple controversies, multiple controversies and questionable inks. Surprise, surprise. The family who's tied to William Branham, Aivok Hagopian, and the Pentecostal fucking new reformation. Uh they have some dodgy shit in their church. Uh, the pastor of the church who Chris Jenner handpicked herself, handpicked herself, was kicked out of his previous church for fucking around behind his wife's back, using his power as a pastor to fuck around and sleep with women in the church. Not kidding. He got fired from his last church and Chris Jenner went, You like the fuck? My daughter likes to fuck. Why don't you come and run our church? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Uh he also did the whole prosperity gospel thing. Again, all it's all this NAR stuff. Go to NARConnections.wordpress.com if you want more information on that, or you can go to William Branham.org. Uh, the church has also been accused of tax evasion in the past. They weren't paying their employees, they were like taking the taxes, weren't paying employees.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

Of course, Chris is gonna want the person who's good at tax evasion when she's just opened a tax write-off church. Like there we go.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

Shocker, right? Shocker, shocker, shocker. And while the Kardashians don't actually seem to go to their own church because they're never photographed at their church, they're photographed uh usually at NAR revivalist dominionism, right? That's this that's the Seven Mountains mandate, the idea that they have to take over government, business, entertainment, yeah-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Those are the churches that the Kardashians get photographed at, like Zoe Church, uh with Chad Veach, who's a fucking scumbag, uh, church owned with Judah Smith, who's also a fucking scumbag. Both of these churches have been accused of being cults because they're tied to the NAR and they teach prosperity gospel. Um, when you see that, and then you see the Kardashians running their own church, again, that they don't go to, it looks weird. It looks weird. And then when you add in William Branham, Ava Cagopian, Lou Taylor, who also goes to Calvary Baptist Church and uh Calvary Temple Church in Nashville, which is also big into NAR, it starts to look like something. It starts to look like something.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

I'm just it's so it's so in line with it. It's it's so like, oh well, this is what we know, and it's working. Always feed our family with lots of money if we continue to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

Yep. Yep, which you guys you can go to patreon.com slash scandal queens. I've got this like huge database where I've been writing about this stuff and doing videos and all kinds of stuff. So you if you want more on that, you can go and listen to that. But to this day, tons of accusations that still surround the church. Uh, there was a big dust up in 2013 because Kim went online and did this big eBay charity auction, and she's like, I'm gonna donate the proceeds to charity. Well, it turns out she only donated 10% of her proceeds from this big auction that she did of all her old stuff. And that charity donation went to her mama's church. And you know, that's just really convenient, isn't it? Because Kim then doesn't have to pay taxes on that donation, but then it goes into the coffers of her mama's church, who also doesn't have to pay tax on that dosay donation. Isn't that just lovely? Isn't that just great? She potentially got two write-offs for it a tithing and a charity donation. So just fucking nuts. It's it's clearly like, in my personal opinion, it's it's it's tax evasion. That church is tax evasion.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:50

It's it's a direct feedback loop. It's like when when people are like, oh, well, Jeff Bezos donated this much, and it's like, that's like a grain of of fucking vice.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:02

Yeah, it's like now let's talk calculate all the damage that he's caused, all the wages that he's thefted from workers. Let's calculate those numbers and then see if that like 20 grand donation to a food bank really matters.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

It's it's a feedback loop and it's dangerous because it means like they're it's it's just like how like shitty governments will funnel money out of different like communities so that they can pay their investors off. It's creating a feedback loop that means that they anytime they earn anything, they can put it into the church, which means it doesn't get taxed, they can get all of the money, and they can pretend like they're being good people.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:40

Exactly. Exactly. Though uh this is why this is again, this is also why I and I got people so mad at me on Instagram, especially when I said I don't think Kim Kardashian had anything to do with that guy who snuck some cocaine in a skim's shipment. That's not their MO. Running money through a church is their MO. You know what I mean? Like being in gray areas, being a drug dealer is pretty fucking black and white. You get caught doing that, you're going to jail, right? There's no getting out of that, right? But if you're running money through a church, what's gonna happen? The worst that's gonna happen is they're gonna fine you. You're not gonna go to prison for that. You're gonna get fined if they can even ever track that stuff down, which these people run their money through so many different people and businesses and all kinds of stuff that there's just like, you know, there's no telling. You can't, you it's so hard to track it down and nail it down, and there's no real charges for it when there is. But but yeah, my personal opinion, church is church is tax evasion. It's it's to to allow them to get away with stuff. But this is what this is the MO, right? This is the MO. This is the MO. Now, of course, you can talk about Kardashian crimes without talking about the endless times they've stolen from creatives because that's what the Kardashians do. That is the backbone. I again, that's why I get so frustrated when people are like, they're business geniuses, they're business geniuses. I'm like, no, no, the people they have copied from are creative and business geniuses, which which you will you will see. Um by by 2012, keeping up with the Kardashians gets really, really big, right? But the Kardashian family is tired of Kim being the ass of all the jokes because she's constantly getting made fun of. Everyone just sees her as a sex tape. So 2012 is when the family starts trying to kind of kind of branch into more legitimate businesses. This is when we're starting, they're starting to do like skincare lines and clothing and stuff instead of scam cards and keychains and all kinds of bullshit. That's around 2012. And this is when they just immediately, the second the Kardashians start doing businesses, they immediately start getting accused of stealing shit. So in 2012, Cam Courtney Chloe launched a makeup line called Chroma. Oops, when you know there's two other established makeup brands with the exact same fucking name and branding. They literally copied the name, they copied the branding from two separate companies and thought no one would notice. Well, both companies noticed, and they shoot, they sued the shit out of the Kardashians, and it went on for years. And the Kardashians rightfully lost the lawsuit. The court went, Yeah, you guys copied everything. You gotta change the name, you gotta change the brand. You gotta change everything. So they had to change it to Kardashian Beauty. So if you're still buying any of the Kardashian skincare and beauty stuff, just know you're buying stolen drop shipped shit. Okay. Uh in 2015, Kendall Jenner and Kylie Jenner, along with Pac Son, uh, were sued for a line of t-shirts they released that read, run away, fall in love, never return. Because it turns out the shirts were directly stolen from an independent t-shirt designer who immediately settled, like immediately sued them, and they had to settle and drop the shirts within days of them of them being announced. That's 2015. Also in 2015, Chris Jenner and Kim Kardashian got sued by the app designer Kung Fu Factory because they sat down in a billion meetings with Kung Fu Factory, designed a whole game, and then once the whole game was designed, they took everything and walked away and didn't pay Kung Fu any money, took it to a cheaper developer and got them to make it instead. So if you ever played Kim Kardashian's Hollywood game, you helped scam people. Also in 2015, Kylie became embroiled in numerous trademark lawsuits, including one against pop star Kylie Minogue. Because in 2015, Kylie tried to trademark the name and word Kylie, which would have forced Kylie Minogue to stop using it as a part of her branding. So Kylie fucking Minogue sued back and told Kylie Jenner to eat a bag of dicks. And Kylie Jenner indeed did have to eat a bag of dicks because Kylie Minogue won it, and Kylie Jenner was not allowed to trademark the name Kylie.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:21

I I if there are any anyone young listening to this who doesn't understand the far reaches that Kylie Minogue has. The like Kylie. She guest starred, she was one of the first guest stars on the wiggles. She was the first pink shirt wiggle. I shit you not. For years they didn't put anyone else in a pink shirt. She was the only one they got to wear one for so freaking long.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:51

Um Kylie Minogue is big, like in every country. She's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

That yeah, that to me, when when someone says Kylie, that's who I think of. I think of her like in the 2001 like video music awards when she came up on the CD. They like popped her up on the CD. I was like, oh my god! I remember watching that. Yeah, no, that was amazing. So that happened. That happened in 2017. Chloe and Kylie got called out again for stealing fashion designs. Kylie got accused, rightfully so, obviously so, um, of stealing plugged NYC's neon camo collection. And then that same year, Chloe was credibly, and this is a big one, she was credibly basically sued and accused by Destiny Blue of stealing these denim designs for her new brand Good American. And she again had to remove them because it was obviously fucking stolen. Both of those obviously fucking stolen. That same year, 2017, Kendall and Kylie release a line of vintage t-shirts together, and then they're pasted with Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Notorious B.I.G. Tupac, Nirvana, all these bands. And guess what? They didn't get a single ounce of permission for not a goddamn thing that they used. Not a goddamn thing. And there were some racist shirts in there too. Some of the shirts had some racist shit on them. And so guess what? Within 24 hours, the estates of Tupac and Biggie had both sent cease and desist letters, and within 24 hours, the sisters, yeah, yeah, had to take the shirts down. Just they were just they were just like, Yeah, I'm just gonna use all these famous bands. We're just gonna do it. We're gonna use you to make money.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:20

One of the ever CDs that I ever bought was a Tupac CD. Like, what's it?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

Yeah, as a middle head, you wouldn't expect, but no, yet. Like you, you they oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:32

Yeah, they just decided we're gonna use Tupac's face and we're gonna put it on shirts. And that's what they do. This is again, this is why I'm saying they don't sling cocaine, they do copyright infringement, they do trademark infringement, they do waspy ass crimes and go, well, you know, you gotta have money, you know, if you want to take us down, we'll just see. The worst, the worst, the worst. We could go on. We could, I'm I'm not even kidding. If you go to the fashion law, I think it's thefashionlaw.com, they have a running live list of ongoing, like a whole historical list of all the times the Kardashians have been sued for trademark infringement and for stealing shit, and it's still ongoing to this day, and there's like 40 different things on there. I we can't go over all of them. We can't. There's just too much. So go to the fashion law if you wanna if you want to hear about all that. But yeah, when it comes to creative ventures, uh, the Kardashians are thieves, they're the least creative people. I swear to you could sit, I I genuinely believe if you sat Kim Kardashian down and you were like, draw a house like a kindergartner with some M birds. I don't think she could do it unless you showed her a picture. I j I genuinely think these. I mean, look at her house. There's no color in it. It looks like a blank sheet of paper. Kim Kardashian's house is like her personality, a blank fucking sheet of paper.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:44

Her did like the beige wrapping for Christmas presents or some shit as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

She's what she's rotted. That frontal lobe is Swiss cheese. Worthless. Worthless. I would believe that that $8.4 million cocaine of shipment was for her personal use. If someone said that. I would believe that. I believe that that's probably what's eating holes in her fucking brain makes her brain not fucking work. But other than, you know, it's a whole I could do a whole nother episode on my thoughts on Kim Kardashian's brain. I have a lot of them. I have a lot of them. Now, as fun as trademarks are, we are getting on in the episode. So now I think it is time to talk about that time that Caitlin Jenner killed someone. Every time I bring this up, people look at me and go, What? Caitlin Jenner killed someone. Yes, Caitlin Jenner fucking killed a woman. Okay? And there that that is what it is. Um, and here's the story because this somehow I don't know why it gets lost. I don't know if it gets lost because it it's Caitlin and the last name's Jenner, not Kardashian, but she was she was a married Kardashian at this point. So here's what happened February 7th, 2015, not that long ago. Caitlin Jenner kills someone. It's a rainy day in Malibu. Okay, winter, rainy, cool. It's not like snowing or anything, but it's rainy, it's cool. And Caitlin, who still identifies as Bruce Jenner at this time, is flying down the Pacific Coast Highway with a trailer and an ATV strapped to the back of the car, speeding, going over the speed limit. Okay? Cadillac escalade, big vehicle, flying down, gets to a stoplight, and is apparently on the phone, not paying attention, stories vary, and slams into the back of a Lexus, which then slams into the back of another car. And that first car that Caitlin hits, this Lexus, goes flying into the intersection where it is T-boned by a Hummer, killing the 69-year-old driver, Kim Howe, who's an actress and an animal rights activist. Absolutely horrific. If you go and look at the scenes, horrific. I'm pretty sure she was declared dead on scene, uh, which in America you can only do if there's, I think it's six, there's like six certain signs of death, and they're very extreme to be able to declare death on the scene. It's gotta be like beheading, uh gray matter, so much blood at the scene that there's no way a human could survive that much blood. But usually if it's a if it's a declaration on scene, it's like decapitation, brain matter, you know, exposed heart in the chet. Like it's like no one can survive. It's gotta be pretty extreme. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Caitlin had pushed Hal's car into the intersection, like I said, where it got struck by a Hummer and she was killed. And also injured in the accident was Jessica Steindorf, who was a Hollywood agent and ended up suing Jenner, like went on a lawsuit for years and years and years. But ultimately, Caitlin never got charged for anything. Never, she got a couple of civil lawsuits. The police decided not to charge her, even though they had tons of ample evidence that she was driving recklessly, speeding in the rain, flew right in full speed, apparently, into the back of this woman in 2015. Just horrific, horrifically. And had the state chosen to prosecute her, this was on Johnny Cochrane's website, the Cochrane Law Firm, is where I found this information after the second lawsuit. But had the state chosen to charge her, which they kind of seem to hint that it should have been, because it would have been a very clear-cut case, uh, it could have been felony. It either would have qualified as manslaughter or felony murder because she was going so fast and driving so recklessly. It's terrifying, terrifying. But she's a Kardashian, right? So nothing. Nothing. Nothing happened to her. She got away with it. How fun is that?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:15

Isn't it real common that like police forces and things like that, like people on a force and certain like areas are like away into the churches anyway?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:25

Yeah, but also just the celebrity pockets in general. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:28

I scrape break, you search mine type of shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:31

Yeah. Obviously, this is would have been the Malibu police, but that they all have a close working relationship, I'm sure, with the LAPD. And the LAPD is one of the notoriously most corrupt police forces in the US, all the way back to the very beginning. I'll I'm gonna do some old Hollywood stories on future episodes, and I'll be talking about like how corrupt the police force was. It hasn't changed much, uh, which you also will find out if you go digging into Scientology and like where is Shelly Miscavige. But yeah, yeah, have to do an episode on that at some point. Be here for hours. Hours, hours. Um, but yeah, Caitlin Jenner killed somebody. So um good times. That's the third dead body that we know of. That can that can be tied one way or another to this family, which is crazy because I mean, I know that my granddaddy's got some dead bodies in World War II, in World War II, but I sure can't say that, you know, he's he's got like murdered friends around him. I'll just put I'll just I'll just put that that way. I'll put that that way. Now we could go on all day about the rest of the crimes, the shady connections the Kardashians have maintained and created throughout the years. We could go on and on for another four plus hours about all the damage they've done to women, to girls, to the media. We could talk about even more. I could keep going fucking on about their ties to right wing evangelical political movements. But frankly, I'm fucking exhausted. This has been four parts. This is probably gonna be like a two-hour-long episode or pretty close to it. We know that OJ isn't the only dodgy character in the Kardashian books. For decades, that family has retained close personal ties to Diddy, who's currently serving a prison sentence for trafficking humans. The Kardashian sisters were heavily featured at his various events and even bragged on their own show about being, and I quote, butt naked at his wild events, aka they were doing the freak-offs. We could also talk about the years-long relationship that Kim and Chloe maintained with international criminals. Joe Lau, who went to Kim Kardashian's first marriage, a man who stole millions from the Malaysian Development Fund, a fund which was meant to benefit the people of Malaysia and build the infrastructure of Malaysia and make life better for Malaysians. Joe Lau stole millions from that so he could go and live in LA, gifting Kim Kardashian Lambos, priceless paintings, and trash bags full of cash. Yes, I'm not kidding. Google Kim Kardashian, garbage bags full of cash, uh, which she got questioned by the FBI for, by the way. Also very fun. Go and look that up. We could also talk about Kim Kardashian's crypto scam that she got fined $1.26 million for promoting on Instagram during the COVID pandemic. Or we could talk about the Instagram lottery/slash data mining scam that Kim Kardashian and Scott Dissick ran together around the same time. They're so so good.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:05

I hope that man gets butted by someone so hard that he just ends up with like a a like permanent disfigurement or something. Like I wish he is a that man is a walking polished toad.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:18

100%. Couldn't couldn't describe him better myself. Couldn't describe it better myself. There is so, so, so much more we could talk about. But frankly, I'm tired. I'm sure Connie's tired. And how much more proof do we really fucking need? Do we really need to keep going? Because we could, we could talk on and on about Lou Taylor, which spoil alert, that's what one of my future episodes is going to be about. We could talk about the endless Kardashian tries to trim management and their potential ties to the conservatorship of Britney Spears. We could talk about Kim's ties to Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and a million other right wing cronies who are destroying America from the inside out, which I have done quite a lot on TikTok if you want to go and watch that. We could talk about endless crimes, endless shadows, endless controversies and scandals because that's all the Kardashians are. They're hollow. They're scammers, they're shallow, they are empty vessels who don't even experience their own humanity firsthand. They live through their fucking phones, they live through their scams, they are secondhand experiencing life. The crimes will continue because that's the only way they know how to exist. They've been doing it for over a hundred years. The scams will never end. Until the people in them, until we stand up and say, get the fuck off my screen, every screen, get the fuck out of here, shut up. I don't ever want to see you again. Until we do that, the Kardashians are gonna keep being scammers the only way they know how, because it's the only way they know how to win. They aren't creators. They don't create. They're ticks, they're parasites, they siphon, they play the clown while the mobsters in the background pick the pockets of the people in the audience. And we could talk about a million more crimes and potential future crimes that I'm sure the Kardashians are gonna do that we could predict right here and right now, because fundamentally that's who the Kardashians are in their hearts. They're fucking clowns and they're fucking thieves. And that's what I have to say about them. That's that's what I have to say on that. Connie, you got any thoughts?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:05

Honestly, like for for everyone listening, like we we made sure these were big like digestible like episodes. There is a fucking small report out there that you can go and look at. We couldn't even fit in this because it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:22

I'm not doing five episodes of the shit. I'm so sick of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:26

I'm so sick of them for this. If this isn't enough for people to be like, oh yeah, to the Kardashians stop putting any kind of time or effort into them, like I'm sorry, but those people are stuck in a warped reality where there should be people on pedestals, which that should not be a thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:48

Yeah, 100%. No disagreement from me. And this is this this series should not be your encyclopedia, it should be your starting point. I fully expect everything I've yapped about over the last four episodes, probably like eight, almost eight hours of this shit, that you will Google it, that you can Google it and you will be told these things. I mean, this shit is so common, AI will get it right on Google. That stupid little AI box at the top, it gets these right half the time because this is common knowledge. These are factual things in legal documents, in legal videos, in legal briefs. These things happened. It's real. You can go on the BBC and read about it. You can go on the independent, the guardian, all of these things. And these stories are there because they are real, they factually fucking happened. These family, this family are fucking criminals, and anyone associated with them, I don't give a fuck if you love Jacob Ballordi. If he is associating with this scumbag family, he's a fucking scumbag too. This family has been scumbag for generations. They have not broken the pattern yet. We have no reason to think they ever will.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:49

I don't even know who Jacob Ballordi is.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:52

He's that long, stretched, fucking lurch-looking motherfucker that's in euphoria and was in the Frankenstein, the new Frankenstein movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:00

They haven't seen either of those either.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:02

I'll send you a picture. I he creeps me out. He looks like he got put in a taffy puller. I don't like it. I don't like it. He's like that one that plays Thor. Their limbs are the proportions are wrong. They're too stretched. They look weird. Too much, too weird, too weird. So that's it. The first chapter of my Kardashian Deep Dive closed. What did you think? Are the Kardashians all they are cracked up to be, or are they something else entirely? Let me know your thoughts on social media or send me a little text through the podcast. You can tap that little link at the top of the description. It'll send me a text. Love to know your thoughts. Um, but heads up, this isn't entirely the end. Uh, I've opened a wormhole with this one, especially as it pertains to the Kardashians, Lou Taylor, Clive Davis, Irving Azoff, Diddy, uh, Mary J. Blige, all of them. Uh, and I intend to follow that wormhole right down to the very fucking end of the rabbit hole. So make sure you're following me and Scandal Queens on all socials because I'm gonna be doing future episodes on the corruption of the American music and entertainment industry, the evangelical beliefs at the center of the entertainment industry, because when you find out how many nut job Pentecostals you got running around in Hollywood, you're gonna be blah-bah-buh baffled. Ba-ba-baffled. The Kardashians, just scratching the surface, just scratching the surface. So get the latest by following me on all the socials at the real E. B. Johnson on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, you name it. For even more deeper dives into Hollywood's most corrupt, please make sure you join me on Patreon for, again, video deep dives, bonus episodes, early podcast releases, lots of good stuff. That's at patreon.com slash scandalqueens. If you're more into the psychological side of things, you want to know how a narcissist ticks and all that, head over to Substack, the real ebjonson.substack.com for all of my essays and guides there. And if you loved this episode, please, please, please leave a five-star review on Apple and Spotify. It helps the other weirdos find me and it helps fight the Swifties. I don't think I told you guys this. There was a huge campaign launched against me at the end of last year and the start of last uh start of this year by the Swifties. They organized it through Discord and through Twitter. I was being sent this for my fans. They swamped my podcast with bad reviews to try to get it dropped and to get no one listening to it. So if you listen to this and you hate Swifties and you want to help me, please leave a five-star review. Um, and the Swifties will figure out that they can go fuck themselves because when you kick me, I only come back twice as strong out of spite.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:17

Swifties are in a cult. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are just a boat.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:21

Yeah, I don't I don't have any respect for that. So I don't know. I'm not that's why I I'm keeping going. I don't give a shit how many Swifties want to get on here and like leave me bad reviews. I'm gonna keep running my fucking mouth. I'll get worse. They don't seem to understand that. They think like, oh, you kick the Swifties and and we're gonna get worse, bitch. I'm gonna get worse. You keep fucking kicking me, I'm gonna get worse. And I'm gonna start sharing Scott Swift's emails pretty soon, which is gonna upset a lot of them. Gonna upset a lot of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:43

They don't they don't know what ADHD spite and indicated ADHD spite will do just prove a point.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:51

I'm an Aries who embraces my spite. I will burn this whole fucking world down, myself included, myself in fucking included.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:00

So cheer it on constantly. I will make sure that AB has all of the confidence.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:06

Don't you scorched earth, bitch? Um, anyway, so yeah, five-star review. If you hate Swifties, thank you, thank you, thank you. Tangent there. Connie, thank you so much for doing this with me. I know this was a fucking slog. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:18

EB know if you want me to come back because I will.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:21

Yeah, I'll have you back in the future. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely gonna have you back for sure, for sure, for sure. And I will be back next week with a lighter scandal. This was heavy, this was a lot of work. I had to do a lot of research. I still am on Patreon. It's too much, it's too much. So next week I'm gonna be taking a look at the golden age of Hollywood because I love classic Hollywood uh and the scandals are fucking crazy. Um, and I'm gonna do one of the original Scandal Queens from the silver screen, just a little one-off episode. So I won't give too much away, but it's gonna be good. So make sure you're here next week for another episode of Scandal Queens. And until next time, keep your secrets close, keep your receipts closer, stay scandalous, queens. Bye bye.