Lou Taylor (Part II): In the Image of God

WARNING: This episode is NSFW. Lots of ranting ahead.

This week, we close the chapter on Lou Taylor and lay it all out in the open - how did Lou Taylor build her business, how did she trap the Spears family and a revolving door of bad decisions (and a conservatorship)? 

It's all in this episode, PLUS: Ariana Grande is tour and looking mini. Will this single gal finish her 41-date engagement? And Jeffrey Epstein's former sex assistant is threatening to release a tell-all book. Is that allowed? My 2+ min ran on the subject says no. 

Listen to all here, in the final chapter of our Lou Taylor saga (for now).

Transcript

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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Scandal Queens. It is me, E. B, the De Influencers, helping you deconstruct the narcissistic cult of Hollywood. And we are back together today, baby, in this holy union that we have joined in to finish up the story of the infamous, manipulative, coercive Lou Taylor. Now, last time there was a lot of context for us to get to where we are today at what is essentially going to be the Spears family and a bunch of other celebrities getting taken advantage of, right? We needed to understand where Lou Taylor kind of got her blueprints so we could understand how Lou Taylor got her conservatorship riz, as the kids might say. Um today it is all about Lou, specifically how Lou has built an environment that enables and empowers what happened to Britney Spears, what may still be happening to her for all we know. Um and what honestly, going by Hollywood's track record, is probably still happening to artists and actors right now, this very second, that we don't even know. And it's easy to think, oh, Lou just talks people into bad contracts. But honestly, I think it's a lot more deep-rooted than that. I think it's a lot more sinister and it's a lot more tied into kind of the political and social states of what's going on than a lot of people want to admit. And that's what I think we're gonna kind of break down today. Um, who Lou Taylor is, how she moves, who she moves with, and most importantly, how she was able to take control of Britney Spears and her family. Now, we are going to do a quick temperature check in just a second, but before we do that, I just want to say that the major source for today's episode is once again Melanie Carlson's excellent Substack series on Miss Defying. I have that linked several times over on my Patreon. Um, and I think it's also in some of the previous episodes. So please, by all means, go over there if you need to do a quick fact check or you can't find it on Google. It is an incredible, incredible series. I mean, like proper investigative journalism, which we never get anymore. It's got tons of great sources, complete footnotes, uh, screenshots, videos, you name it. It is so, so much better than anything I could give you here. So please go and check out uh Melanie Carlson's Substack Miss Defying if you want to really get into the weeds of all of this stuff. Because I mean, it is so deep. I can't cover it all even in these two episodes. All right, so before we get into the meat of things, let's take a beat, let's take a breath, let's kind of shake things out, kind of prepare ourselves for what we're gonna do with a quick temperature check before we get into the final chapter of Lou Taylor's Insane Story. Right off the top, Ariana Grande is back on tour and she's single. That's right. Lots of big news here for Ariana Grande over the last week or so. The singer has officially launched her new tour, the Eternal Sunshine Tour, which is gonna celebrate her seventh album release, Eternal Sunshine. Surprise, surprise, very creative. The singer is scheduled to perform 41 shows across North America and Europe with a 10-night residency at the O2 Arena in London. Now, you'll notice that I say the singer is scheduled. I do not say that the singer will perform because honestly, at this point, um uh well we don't know, do we? We don't know. Uh, because the thought that's in the center of literally everyone's mind is that this tour is not gonna, it's not gonna finish. Uh, because if you uh you know what, just pause this and and get on social media, whatever, whatever, whatever platform you fancy, and just type in Ariana Grande recent tour, and you'll see what we're talking about, right? Uh people don't think Ariana's gonna be able to finish the Eternal Sunshine Tour because she looks like Karen Carpenter did right before she died. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She looks absolutely skeletal, she looks incredibly low energy. Her voice sounds great. You'll never take that from her. She's God, what a talented. She's genuinely, she's like an incredible singer. But um, the rest of it is shocking. It's shocking. I I don't know who the hell is managing her, but this is like just it's insane. Um, fans and non-fans, like everyone at this point is looking at her going, what the we already did Karen Carpenter. Why are we doing this again? Uh, she's skinnier than Paris Hilton was in the 2000s, you know, when everybody was coked out. Uh, like all the super skinny, coked out bimbos. I mean, it's crazy. It's very, very crazy. There's no muscle mass, the moves are stilted and limited. It's walk and pose, walk and pose, walk and pose. It's just, it's like, it's shocking and it's sad. Um, we're getting now into Eugenia Cooney territory. And honestly, the only thing we can hope for is that someone around Ariana who genuinely cares what happens to her can try and empower her to get help. Now, on top of all that, um, the news is also broken that she and Ethan Slater have called it quits after three years. Yes, the SpongeBob to wick an actor who left his wife and his newborn child to be with Ariana. Um, the two of them have decided, hey, you know, actually it's not working out anymore. So, whoopsie. So, you know, uh, I hope for Ethan. Ethan buddy, if you're out there, I I hope being a fad was worth it. I uh, you know, that's really I'm I'm not sad for you. I'm sad for your ex-wife and your child. Next up, Lenny Hockstein has been accused of drugging and raping a woman. That's right, the ex-husband of Miami Real Housewife, Lisa Hockstein, is being accused of a really nasty assault. Like it's really bad. Uh, TMZ broke the story on Monday, June 8th, after a lawsuit was filed in Miami by an unnamed British model. In the lawsuit, the Jane Doe alleges that in May of 2025, Lenny Hoxtein lured her to his Star Island home in Miami using a young male decoy, where he then drugged her and raped her after she repeatedly told him no. Her story is basically he hit on her, she was not interested, he sent a younger guy over to say, Hey, we're gonna go to this party on gated Star Island super late, like after this club closes, you want to go? And she was like, A party with a hot guy like you? Yeah, absolutely, let's do it. And she got there and it was just Lenny. Um, according to Jane Doe, he gave her what she thought was a melatonin after she had repeatedly told him no, uh, and then she blacked out and became unconscious. She later found out it was an ambient. Jane Doe is suing Lenny Hockstein for sexual battery and infliction of emotional, emotional distress, but Lenny, of course, is denying the claims. Hoxtein has fired back at the lawsuit, saying essentially that the woman's a gold digger. I uh his response to me personally is very telling because he he he sounds like an abuser. He absolutely sounds like an abuser. Uh, he basically says she's a gold digger. If she really had been assaulted, she would have called the police a year ago. She's just trying to get money. But here's what's very, very, very interesting about it. She's not suing him. This Jane Doe, this model is not suing him for punitive damages. She's not just trying to get the money and run. Um, even though money is obviously going to be involved at some point, she's actually asking for a jury trial, which to me is is says quite a lot. Um, it says to me that she wants it all laid out there. She wants as many eyes on it as she can get. And that to me, that's a level of confidence, which also could impart a level of truth. Now, it could be the opposite, I could be totally wrong, but it's a balls, ballsy move. Um, because she could just settle this under the table, right? If money was really the end goal, she clearly doesn't want that. It's gonna expose her to this like immense ridicule via a jury trial, uh, which will also hopefully expose him to the same level of ridicule, and it will kind of create a record that stands a lot longer and more significantly than a settlement. So I guess we'll see how this plays out and we'll see how this closes. But I can tell you it's not looking good for Lenny Hocksine, who, in my personal opinion, uh, what is that quote? There was there's the the Scottish comedian, uh Frankie Boyle. What is it he says? He says, I'm not I'm not saying he's a rapist. I'm saying he has a rapist's face. That's how I feel about Lenny Hoxtein, not a fan. And last but not least, Jeffrey Epstein's assistant and sex scheduler is planning a book. Yes, yeah. And the most disgusting news this week, you heard that correctly, Sarah Kellen, who started working as the pedophile's assistant in 2001 and continued to do so for 15 years, is reportedly in talks to release a memoir. She's gonna release a fun little memoir that'll just be right on the New York Times bestseller list. Isn't that so girl power, girl boss, good for her? Uh, I don't even I don't even know what to say here. That's legal. Um uh if you've got kids in the room, earplug time. Uh how the fuck does someone who assisted in, aided, and abetted a pedophile ring have the fucking gall to even consider writing a book about trafficking children, women, vulnerable men. Like how what fucking planet are we on? How that that alone, this action alone should be enough to get a psychotherapist involved to go, you're a fucking psychopath, and we're gonna lock you up before you murder more people. Because for sure, if anybody knows where the bodies are buried, it is this woman. I'm telling you, I have read about this woman because I spent a lot of time going through data set 10. And data set 10 is is particularly in the Epstein files. That's where the stuff about the girls is. And I found that because I just went into the Epstein files one day and I searched the girls. And do you know what I found? I found Sarah Kellen organizing men coming in and out of rooms like 8B and 11A. And she was doing the whole timetable, she was sending people in to replace broken beds. Um, she was telling people, oh no, Epstein can't do that because that girl broke her teeth. She can't be there. So just move that other girl to this room. This girl's gonna move out today. That girl left uh sooner than expected, so we're gonna need someone else in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She was involved in all of that. She was involved in all of that. And it is unfathomable to me that a human trafficker is like, lolly lali la. Should I release a book? Are you kidding me, Sarah Kellen? Go fuck yourself. According to sources who spoke to TMZ, which is somehow now one of the most accurate freaking journalist outlets we have, which is crazy. Um, the only reason Kellen has not already released the book is that she's scared that she'll lose any leverage she has to stay out of prison. This woman worked with Gislaine, by the way, that I stick with the last podcast on calling her Gislaine. Uh, she worked with Gislaine as well as an assistant. Um it's just like it baffles. It baffles the mind. The only reason she's not released it is not because she's like ashamed of what she did or scared or anything else. She just doesn't want to lose her fucking leverage. What a ghoul. Like what an absolute ghoul. Essentially, what she's saying is, I know I did wrong, uh, and I'm only gonna sell it to the highest bidder. I'm I'm only gonna deal with it in a way that benefits me the most. Like just absolute fucking ghoul. But you know, we live in the upside down now. Uh so what's gonna happen, who knows? I'm sure Penguin or Simon Schuster will have it out on a grocery store bookshelf sometime next week. Uh, right, have a have a nice big child sex abuse cover right in between all your masturbatory hockey player material. So look for that in a Walmart near you soon. Alrighty, righty, righty. It is time, the final chapter in our story on Lou Taylor. Now, the last time we left off in the mid-90s, roughly, Lou had moved to Florida with her husband Robert at the start of the 90s, and soon after she found herself working as a quote unquote business manager for Davy Moss Advisors, which, if you want to be reminded all about the deep, dark nastiness of Davy Moss Advisors, especially the guy who started it, go back and listen to the last episode. Now, Davy Moss at this point, uh, it was being run by John Davy Mos, who had managed very questionably the careers of superstar boxer boxer Michael Moore, and he had also um been involved with Bobby Brown, and he was involved with artists like Mary J. Blige as well, who were releasing um records, releasing albums with Uptown Records. Now, when you look at the past for Lou Taylor, when you look at who she was working with and the industries she was working in, boxing specifically, as we covered in the last episode, it's not hard to see how Lou landed where she was, but how specifically did we go from managing a boxer in the 90s to having a central hand in the Britney Spears conservative ship? Well, it's quite the fascinating leap. Okay. So Lou Taylor hopped on board the Dabymos advisors train around 1990, and her career just explodes, right? She was in the studio with Mary J. Blige as Mary cut her first record on the Uptown label in 92, um, presumably there as a representative of Davymos, who she was working with. And then in 1993, barely three years after stumbling into her business management role, Lou started her own business. This was the first iteration of her TriStar brand, TriStar Accounting Group, which still exists today, but it obviously expands into sports and entertainment, which comes later. Now, at this point, it doesn't seem like Lou Taylor was anything more than an arm of John Davy Ms, who you'll remember had taken over from his father and was managing the career, like we said, of Michael Moore, the super famous, seemingly unbeatable boxer. Uh, Davy Moss was making a lot of money on Moore, possibly up to 33% of his winnings, but that wasn't enough. Between 1991 and 1994, Moore ended up embroiled in a number of criminal incidents, including the breaking of a police officer's jaw, the lawsuit for domestic violence by his wife. These incidents took a toll, not just on Moore's reputation, but on the money he was earning, which obviously is going to affect his management team and what they're earning, right? So this was just probably one of the many reasons why in 1993, Davy Moss Advisors suddenly announces that they are going defunct. Now, Lou stepped up, and this is the same time that she kind of starts her own thing. She starts her own business. It's literally the same year. Um, and she registers TriStar Accounting Group Incorporated in 1993. Now, Lou immediately inherits, also conveniently, Davy Moss's biggest clients, including Moore. That's how she ends up getting those winnings, she takes on Moore, and she obviously is going to get an immediate boost to her personal and professional gravity, right? Because, like I told you, Moore was kind of like the like a Mike Tyson of his time. So, all of that is how in 1994 she ended up landing a huge portion of Moore's earnings on April 22nd when he defeated Evander Holyfield in one of the biggest heavyweight matches of all time. It's understandable with a reputation like that that Lou started to climb the ranks of a sports business manager. Between '94 and 2000, Lou worked with other major athletes like Tony Fernandez, an MLB player and a five-time All-Star, and Jesse Barfield, who was another star. He was like an outfielder, but he was, he was, he was still quite, he was quite good. He was quite, quite popular if you're a baseball person. Now that doesn't seem to have been enough for Lou, however, because she had her eyes. She she wants more. If there's anything about this woman, she is a black fucking hole. Enough is not enough, is not enough. The world is not enough. That statement was made for Lou Taylor. She didn't want to wallow with suicidal boxers for a portion of the purse. Lou Taylor was nothing if not a woman who wanted it all, and she was gonna get it at any cost. Things were relatively straightforward and quiet for Lou Taylor between Michael Moore's big win in 1994 and the year 2000. She mentioned, she's mentioned here and there, like occasionally in little interviews and things. Um, she continues her dealings with the record industry, but there's no really big names that she's attached to. In general, no one knows who she or TriStar is at this point. Now, everything seems to shift in 2000. This is a big year for Lou Taylor and her family. Now, why is that? Um, it's because right around this time, according to Robert Taylor, Lou's mother passed away. Robert says Lou cried every night and became desperate for the two to attend church. So they did. And shortly after, Robert was baptized and seemingly possessed by the Holy Spirit. If you go and read the their Calvary Church, the Calvary Chapel Church website. Uh, Robert decided he was being called by God to start a church. No red flags there, huh? And so the two picked up sticks from Florida and headed back north. No, not to New York, to Brentwood, Tennessee, one of the wealthiest and most celebrity-packed enclaves in the whole of Tennessee, if not the whole of the Southeast. Now, where did this come from? It seems completely out of the field. This this guy, if you go to that Calvary Chapel Church, Calvarybrentwood.com, I think is what the address is. Um, the way Robert tells the story on there, he never had an interest in God, never encountered him, did some Sunday school as a kid, but no one in his family was religious, no one cares, and then whoop, he just up an ante, suddenly just feels the Holy Spirit up inside him, right? That's kind of what it seems like. It's um it seems a bit left field. And at first glance it is. Uh Lou Taylor, who was thriving in the mafia-ridden crime world, uh, much as Robert Kardashian was at the same mu at the same time in the music industry, she's just suddenly wanted to go to church and she suddenly had this religious husband. Like, what's that all about? Just by just from the death of her mom? Uh no, that's that's a very romantic story, but that's not exactly true. Because even though Lou Taylor was engaged in some of the dodgiest business on the face of the planet, she also had ties to some of the biggest religious royalty in the United States, oddly enough. Those ties go all the way back to Stephen. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna butcher this name. It's the most difficult Armenian name I've ever I've encountered yet. Uh Chavigian specifically, Stephen Chavigian, um, the grandson of freaking get this, right? Mind blowing. Lou Taylor, BFS with Stephen Chevigian. She's given his daughter internships at her company and all this kind of stuff. He is the grandson of Billy Graham. Okay, and Stephen Chavigian, as recently as 2025, said that he sees the heart of God in the current state of American Christianity. I kid you not. That that should speak for itself. Now, the Chavigian family, coincidentally, are also a part of that big old evangelical Christian Armenian family who obviously supported Billy Graham and ended up marrying into the Graham family. Um, they you you'll be able to draw a line between them and Demo's Shikarian and the Kardashians, which is wow, crazy, right? So Lou had strong religious roots, as it turns out, and was now encouraging her husband, despite all his previous years of contentment, to pick up the mantle of Billy Graham himself, start your own church, become a leader of men. So, you know, if that's still not a red flag to you, then maybe what I'm about to tell you next will be. Because in 2000, Robert and his adoring wife, Lou Taylor, started Calvary Chapel Church in their new home of Brentwood, Tennessee. And I'm not sure how many of you by this point have hit pause and run over there to go and look at that Calvary Brentwood website and to look at this church and click around on the website and read through their beliefs. But it's pretty alarming stuff because Calvary Chapel, by all appearances, in my personal opinion, belongs to the NAR, the new Apostolic Reformation, uh, which I've been covering that. That's what I covered in episode two, I believe it was, of the Kardashian Deep Dive series. Um, and if you need a refresher on that, you can head over to Patreon for like I the whole I have a whole collection on this whole thing. Um, but anyway, Calvary Chapel is one of those NAR churches that we've talked about. Again, this isn't my personal opinion. And what I mean by that is it's one of those heavily right-wing, heavily political. The Bible is literal, speaking in tongues, laying of hands, all that stuff. Remember all the crazy shit we talked about with William Branham, all of that, that tent revival brainwashing, hallelujah, past the gravy. You can be a healer. You just have to tithe to my church, give me a bunch of money, and I'll tell you you're a healer, all of that kind of stuff. That is that is very, very similar to what they preach at Calvary Chapel Church. Okay, but it gets worse. Okay, it gets worse, which we'll get to in just a second. So if you go and you have a look at CalvaryBrentwood.com, um, if you Calvary Chapel Church, this is the church that Robert and Taylor, uh Robert Taylor started in 2000, their beliefs are very clear. They take the Bible literally. It says that, I believe, multiple times on the website. Every page, every word, they take literally. Keep that in mind. A book that says you should stone whores to death and not eat pork, and that like spirits and all they take it literally. They don't think it's symbolic, they think it's fucking literal. Um, they are extremely anti-LGBTQ. I also want to say, we're gonna go through this. I this is not anti-Christian, uh by the way. I want I want you all to know that I know that I've been heated about that in the past, but this episode, in no way anti-Christian. What Lou Lou Taylor's not a Christian. Okay, so number two, they are extremely anti-LGBTQ. They state that openly. We believe, we believe marriage is only between a man and a woman, and that's the only thing that's ever been made. And da da da. And they're they're cunty about it. Some of these churches try to dress that language up, but they straight up, there's like a whole paragraph in their beliefs where they're like, it's a man and a woman get fucked if you think there's anything else. It's it doesn't literally say that, but that's that's the energy that you will get from it. Which hold on to that because that will be. Very important later on in the Britney Conservatorship story. So they also preach prosperity gospel, which is like if you go to that NARConnections.wordpress.com website, that's one of the big warnings that that author and researcher on that website tries to point out is like prosperity gospel is the antithesis, the antithesis of what Jesus taught. Like it's the absolute fucking opposite. And Lou Taylor's church, of course, it preaches, of course, it's prosperity gospel, right? The richer you are, the more of a beloved and favored Christian you are. And the poorer you are. Well, that's just because you're a sinner and you don't deserve to have a lot of money. Uh, there's a major focus on end times that are fucking death cold church. They have the literal belief that we're going, we're about to have Armageddon and they're gonna be the ones who lead us into it. And Jesus is gonna come back riding a pony with a flaming sword and create a theocracy that they get to live in. They're nuts, right? Right. And then and then all the Holy Spirit shit. They're very discreet about how they talk about the Holy Spirit stuff, but um, just just go and have a dig around. Go and go to this Calvarychapel.com. Cal I'm sorry, Calvarybrentwood.com, have a little perusal of their their crazy ass, wacky ass beliefs, and then take yourself over to William Branham.org, have a little study around, and then wind yourself up on NARConnections.wordpress.com. That's what you want to do. If you do all of that, you'll start to understand, but it's nonsense. It's manipulative, cult worshiping building nonsense, intentional misrepresentation of what Christianity is supposed to be. There's more, okay, but if we just look at those ideologies alone, we start to see the same kind of pattern repeating as we saw with Avok Hagopian and William Branham. It's the same kind of preaching you see in here with Billy Graham. Surprise, surprise, she's BFFs with his grandson, and with Joel Osteen, which, hey, guess what? Joel Osteen is on the NAR Connections is on the NAR Connections warning list. You're you're like, he's dangerous, dangerous. Um basically a big, large con. It's all a big, large con to get rich people to validate and justify the state of the world and their role in it while siphoning off money to fund some of the most heinous shit going on in the country and the world. Now, here's what's really interesting. It seems that Lou, shady, right? Shady, I succeed in the crime-ridden boxing industry, Lou Taylor, goes through a major shift during this time, the 2000s, when they're opening this church. And it's not the shift you would expect, while also simultaneously the shift you would expect. Because at this point, we see a distinct shift in Lou's language, in the way she carries herself and the way the image she presents, which is going to be vitally important when we get to the Spears family in a moment. Lou, who is very much still in the throes of expanding her celebrity management business, starts speaking about being a anti-quote, submissive wife to her pastor husband, but she specifically starts talking about her businesses within this twist of false Christian ideology. Take, for example, this interview response from Lou that she gave in an interview with today's Christian woman just a few years after she and her husband started their church in Nashville. She said to them, I've always felt called to minister to people others don't normally get to. And I know a big part of that means hanging out with people who don't know God yet. I thrive in those situations. We can get on thin ice quickly when it comes to connecting with unbelievers. We have to be careful. It takes accountability and years of learning to sort through what's okay to do or say and what isn't. Um, first of all, hold on to that quote. That is going to be another really important piece. You want to cling to that. But second of all, uh, what a loon. I know it's not unbelievers, it's non-believers, but the editors of the Christian magazine, obviously, the editors were there were not intelligent enough or grammatically aware enough. It it doesn't matter. Lou's an idiot as well. Um, it's all a mess. It's all a mess. It's all a mess. Now, specifically from that quote, that specific quote from Lou, I want you to hold that right, because that is important. That is very, very important. But it's also a huge, giant, red, horrible death warning alarm bell, okay? Um, because you I know you're that you're confused. You're like, okay, I don't how does that little quote about working with the people that that don't want to believe or don't believe? How is that? How is that? It's because of Seven Mountains territory, folks. It's Seven Mountains Mandate tour territory. Um, and what is the Seven Mountains Mandate? Well, it's the scariest evangelical Christian movement you've heard of since the NAR. Okay, you probably haven't heard of them at all, but they're they're right there. Uh working hand in hand with the NAR ideology, the Seven Mountains Mandate, more commonly known as Dominionism theology, is all about Christians conquering what they consider to be the seven elements of society so that they can put the world under a Christian theocracy that they get to sit on the top of as kings and as queens. It's one of the branches of the Christian nationalism tree. That's basically the best way to look at it, just like the NAR is a branch that's basically coming out of the same side of the tree. Essentially, what it boils down to is that Dominionists believe that it is their Christian duty to take over the quote-unquote seven cultural mountains of influence so that they can take control of society. It's the same beliefs that are preached by Chad Veach and Judah Smith, the ones who minister to freaking Justin Bieber and the Kardashians and Chris Pratt and all of those, those absolute scumbags. Um, and the seven, the seven mountains to to who I think they're I think they're treasonists, right? They're they're basically trying to take over the government, trying to take over the world. They're treasoners, they're like treasonists. Um, but the seven mountains are religion, family, education, government, media, arts and entertainment, and business. And they believe that by taking all of this over, they can essentially take over the world and force everyone to be a Christian. And if you don't, basically bow down and do it, uh, they're gonna wipe you out. They want to make a make a make it illegal for you to not be Christian, okay? And they they want to bring back Jesus and wipe out everybody else or subjugate everybody else who is outside of them. They believe that it is literally their job, literally, to take over the world, to subjugate human beings. Every human being on this planet, they believe, should have to live the way that they tell them. Okay. You see what that is? You see that personality disorder, yeah? Uh, and they just think that they have the right to do it because they're wealthy. That means that God chose them, and that means they get to do whatever they want. And it puts a lot of the positioning of certain celebrities in a new light, right? Specifically the Kardashians, the Hilton, Katy Perry, Chris Pratt, all of them, all of them. All the icky gross hypocritical celebrities who are paying into these churches, tithing to them, and sitting in their pews and getting photographed coming out of them. And make no mistake, just like the NAR is funding and promoting Donald Trump and his party, the Seven Mountains Mandate people, Dominionists like Lou Taylor and her husband Robert Taylor are certainly in the same position. Here's another kicker. Um, that quote I read you at the top about Lou's job is to minister to those who aren't ministered to, to the non-believers. It's the exact same rhetoric that Katy Perry's parents use and have repeated about their celebrity daughter, their ties to her, and their 70 plus donations to Donald Trump's campaigns. It's literally almost like really like they're repeating the same line. How odd. How odd. Here's what's kind of important about all that, okay? Lou's new Christian spin wasn't just sliding toward the sinister. It seemed to be directly influencing who she moved toward next and how she moved. Her big break outside of sports came with Nikki Taylor, who was a well-known model and television personality in the late 90s. After losing her job with this prominent cosmetics company, I can't remember who it was. It was like a it wasn't Claire. Was it it was it was one of the one of the big makeup companies, but she was like the face girl for the makeup company. She lost that contract while she was being managed by Lou. So she makes an announcement she's going to be leaving Lou's Taylor. She's thinking about leaving Lou Taylor's TriStar Management to sign a contract with Elite Models. Now that change would never come, okay, because in 2001, Nikki Taylor was involved in a serious car accident that left her fighting for her life in an Atlanta hospital. No one knew if she would live or die, but you know, it made the first big break for Lou Taylor, appearing on camera for the local and national news, assuring them as Nikki's manager that she was doing her best to survive. Now, Nikki Taylor, no relation, is an interesting case study in the involving techniques of Lou Taylor. I'm gonna go through it kind of quickly here, but if you want the full dive again, go over to Melanie Carlson's substack. She's got the whole thing laid out. It's really, really crazy. Nikki, as I said, was a model, which outside of Lou's primary experience, that was that was not what she normally did. After all, Lou had been managing athletes, not models. What does she know about gaining contracts and managing things in that corner of the industry? Well, it may not have been Lou Taylor's skill with business that brought Nikki into her orbit as much as it was the people around Nikki, because Nikki, you see, had been embroiled in several scandals before the year, like in the whole year, I think. It was maybe a year and a half, year, year and a half before her accident. The really biggest part of those controversies had stemmed from her relationship with Miami nightclub owner of Liquid, Chris Paciello, Pochiello, Pocchiello or Paciello? P-A-C-I-E-L-L-O. I'm gonna say Paciello for this episode, and you guys can just correct me. You know where to find me. Um, and and Chris Paciello, Christian Pacchiello, was a mafia associate, literally, literally, and an FBI informant who got arrested in 1999 for participating in the robbery and murder of a woman. Now, Chris rubbed elbows with the biggest mobsters in New York. This is factual. You can go look him up. And he spent time with all the bigs, all the greats of the late 90s and the early 2000s. Like I said, he was getting pictured with like Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan and things. And he was also photographed with Diddy, with J-Lo, with Madonna, Sophia Vergara, you know? I think those some of the stories I read, it kind of sounds like Sophia was dating him, maybe for a little while. But Nikki was dating him in the year 2000. So Nikki was interviewed by the feds in 2000 in relation to Pacchiello and a huge delivery of cash that she had transported for him from Florida to New York. And while she wouldn't do any time for her involvement, Pachiello would, as he would later plead guilty to charges relating to murder, racketeering, and robbery. Just three months before Nikki's life-altering car wreck, though, news broke again that she had been admitted to an inpatient drug rehab program. Nikki Taylor stayed there for one week, allegedly on her own, of her own volition, but you never know with these Hollywood things. Like you, if you've you've probably already, if you're one of my Patreon subscribers, you've heard the Brian Wilson episode. You know, it's it's who knows if it was actually voluntary or not, but she goes into rehab and Lou Taylor's out there in the papers. Once again, TriStar Management, we're helping her, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nikki gets out of rehab after a month and she's back with Lou Taylor. Then on the morning of April 29th, 2001, Nikki was a passenger in a car in Atlanta when the driver wrapped the car around a telephone pole. Nikki was left in critical condition and the media and the public, it was again one of those media storms. Models have been almost killed. What's she gonna look like? Is she gonna be quasimoto? Um, and most of all, they wanted to know if drug use was to blame. People didn't know if she was driving, if she was not driving, she had just been into rehab. So was she messed up again? Lou Taylor was right there on camera saying, no, no, she's not on drugs. She's on anxiety medication. And you know, she's got a little careless with it. It's just the anxiety medication. She's gonna be fine. I I represent her. It's gonna be fine. She just really takes command of the situation. So here's what's even crazier about all this. I think that this is where the pieces clicked together finally for Lou and made it easy for her to scoop up the Spears family later. Because remember, this is happening all around 2000 as her husband's starting a church. Nikki survived her injuries and covered enough, like she was recovered enough. She got better. She she was kind of trying to play it off like she was perfectly recovered, but I think she was still dealing with quite, you know, people end up in in physical therapy for months. But she she gets out of the hospital and then she gives People Magazine an exclusive interview about her life, the wreck, uh, and everything that had come after. In that interview, it's made clear that Lou is still her manager. Lou's basically right there, and it's always mentioned in these years after the wreck. Lou Taylor, Lou Taylor manager, Lou Taylor, TriStar, Lou Taylor, TriStar. Um, she specifically, what's interesting about this interview is that Nikki Taylor specifically starts pushing this really kind of almost to me, it's almost performative. I know you're just an erect girl, but come on. Almost like I'm a born-again Christian. It's not like I found God, I found peace with God. No, it's like I am a born-again Christian. The magazine even mentions how she's now listening to Christian music while they're conducting the interview, right? It says, while Taylor's loved ones visit, her favorite CDs play in the background, sting Faith Hill, and for the recently born-again patient, contemporary Christian music. It's it's it's eerily similar. If you're someone who knows much about the Britney Conservatorship, I think I mentioned it in the last episode. It's eerily similar, that little part, eerily similar to some stuff that's going to happen to Britney later. So, anyway, after the big interview, Nikki slowly starts making appearances in public again. In 2005, she pops up in her first big public appearance as a judge of that year's Miss America pageant. And judging with her is Phil Malouf, a member of the Malof family who will later be tied into Britney Spears' conservatorship in her Las Vegas residencies. By 2007, Nikki had been offered her own documentary series, but the reality show was canned after Lou and Nikki decided it didn't show her favorably enough. Lou led Nikki in a lawsuit against Eve for what they claimed was this kind of like fraudulent misrepresentation of Nikki. They were like, You didn't show her perfume line, you didn't show her book, you didn't show her this, you didn't show her that. And I don't think the show ever aired. Uh, Nikki was gushing about Lou Taylor by this point. This is like early 2000s, we're past 2001, right? So we're probably a couple years later. She's gushing, she's absolutely gushing. Um, and what she had to say about her manager, who's also, as you'll see in a second, is also operating, it sounds like, as like a religious counselor and best friend. Um Nikki basically starts revealing more than I think she realizes she did. This is what was written about Nikki and Lou in a 2007 interview. In addition to her family, Nikki's support system includes her manager at TriStar Sports and Entertainment Group, Lou Taylor, and assistant Robin Greenhill, who's she's a creep. She's basically just Robin. She's um Nikki Shadow. I'm sorry, she's Lou's Shadow. She's Lou Taylor Shadow. Robin Greenhill's Lou Taylor. Let's just start this again. In addition to her family, Nikki's support system includes her manager at TriStar Sports and Entertainment Group, Lou Taylor, and assistant Robin Greenhill, whom she considers close friends. They hide hard, they ride Harley's together and attend Calvary Chapel, where Rob Taylor, Lou's husband, is pastor. Before I met Lou, it was just me and my boyfriend or whoever I was with, Nikki says. Now I have great women in my life. That is oh so basically the translation of that is Lou Taylor is my everything. She is a part of every aspect of my life now, right? Because she goes to Lou's church, she does her social stuff. She just said she goes and rides Harley, so that would be social time, right? And then obviously she works with her because Lou Taylor is her business and financial manager. So what part of what part of Nikki's life does she control? Because it sounds like Lou Taylor is literally inserted herself into every social, religious, financial, business, you know, personal. Like it's it's this is the sinister pattern developing. This is the complete takeover of the client's life. And I think it happens first by Lou making herself look like this great Christian to be aspired to. Um, and then she lulls clients into a false sense of security, hits them when they're vulnerable, which makes them go, well, she's Christian, so she's safe. She was, she wouldn't lie. Like, this is all for the best. And then I think she slowly just swallows up everything around that person with a like, oh, let me handle this. We're best friends type of approach. And then before you know it, you wake up and you don't own anything. Lou Taylor's Lou Taylor's the only person with the passwords to your phone. You know what I mean? So, like, it's it's it's very sinister, slow creeping, much like corporations who call their workers family, you know? Now Nikki Taylor wouldn't be the only name that Lou Taylor took over and used to her advantage during this time. Ron Artest, who was one of the biggest basketball players ever, he's got a whole new name now. I didn't write it down. He's he's gone through a lot, there's been a lot of back and forth. I'm not sure which name he's going by now, but his name in the 2000s was Ron Artist. Artist? Artest? Ron Artest, right? He was huge. Major, I'm not a basketball person, right? But he was one of the biggest basketball players in the world by the early 2000s. But after a series of PR disasters, specifically an incident that was called the Malice at the Palace incident, um, which was happened during the 2004 Pistons and Pacers game. A fan threw a drink, and Ron Artest ran into the audience and the two got into a fight, and it was it was a big, big deal. Rtest our test was in need of some serious crisis control when it came to his image and who wanted to work with him. Sometime after that malice in the palace event, Nikki Taylor's lawyer, so Nikki Taylor, the model that Lou is representing, um, Nikki Taylor's lawyer, Steven Scrinty, Scrensy, Scrensy, uh, was sent to help Ron Artest with the ensuing civil suit and the misdemeanor, assault, and battery charges that had been put against him. By April of the next year, 2005, Lou Taylor was Ron's manager. And by his own testimony, uh, for me, he he there's quotes from him about this, and uh it's pretty telling, right? It's pretty telling. There's this one article which came out in the edition of GQ at the time that she had just become his new manager and he was moving, he was moving to a new team. Um, and this is what Ron Artes said. Ron, well, they wrote this, and he's got a quote in here. Ron spends several hours with his new management team at TriStar, a group that takes what they call a quote-unquote holistic approach to managing celebrities. That's for sure. Louise Lou Taylor, the head of the company, a warm but fiercely efficient brunette, and Ron's new guru, will in the course of the next few days deal with his real estate investments, edit his new rap song, manage his child support payments, arrange to have his children ferry to Toys R Us, help him design t-shirts for his website, and on hands and knees in Indianapolis, clean out his refrigerator with Clorox. Then she will order him to hire a housekeeper. Like, what? Are you she's what? She's she's handling his child support and payments, his real estate investment. She's gonna edit the rap song that he's putting out. She's going to arrange to have his children taken to Toys R Us. She's gonna arrange for them to be cared for. And she's uh there's there's there's a lot. Even like her going, Oh, I'll clean your refrigerator on hands and knees. That to me feels like a guilt inducement. Like at some point later, she's gonna be able to say to them, I've I've been on my hands and knees scrubbing your refrigerator. Who else has done that? Like a narcissistic mother, man, like a narcissistic mother. That whole thing, that whole thing from GQ, I think speaks for itself. Take over the celebrity's life, sell it to them as convenience, but make them reliant on you in every single way possible. Infantilize the celebrities and everyone around them if you have to, and take power over everything so that you are all that they see, do, hear, feel, know, there's no question about it. Now, Lou went on to arrange a relationship between Artest and the Maloofs. Yes, those Malofs, Adrian Malouf, um, the billionaire family who owned the Las Vegas Palms and the Sacramento Kings. Ron Artest is actually in an episode of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills when they go up there to watch the Sacramento Kings. Uh, Ron Artest described his time with the Maloof family team, right? The Kings, the Sacramento Kings is who are, I think they were at the time, much the same way he had described Blue Taylor's management style. He said, I never knew my owners before, like I know them, says Artest, who like point guard Mike Bibby and other Sacramento players routinely calls the Malouf brothers to chat. Without them, I wouldn't have this chance I have now. They've taken a lot of weight off of my shoulders, not just basketball-wise, but in every aspect of my daily life. I've got a little more room here to correct my mistakes and breathe a little bit too. Oh my god. This eventually escalated because people are like, Whoa, they're taking over your daily life, and then this Lou woman. Has also taken over your daily life. Like, what part of your life do you control, brother? And like I said, he's had a lot of problems. He's changed his name, all these kinds of things. But that to me smacks of like a high control environment, right? That quote was given by Ron Artest in 2007, the same year that Britney's infamous give me more happened as well. And guess where that happened? At the Maloouf's Vegas Palms Hotel. And that's where a lot of reality TV has been filmed. The Kardashians have filmed at the Malof's Hotel. Um, Jamie is going to be involved at the Maloouf's Hotel. There was one of like the Road Rules or one of those The Real World, I think, was filmed there. There's lots of reality television that's been involved in this Malof property, interestingly. And Britney is no exception to that, including that, again, that just heartbreaking 2007 performance. Now, all of that has gotten us here to the moment you've all been waiting for. How the heck does Britney Spears fit into all this? How the heck did Lou Taylor get her hands on Britney Spears? And how did she keep her involvement quiet for so long inside of it all? Well, everything we talked about to this point is what's led us here. You've seen how Lou's pattern has escalated, how she sharpened and honed her message with a Christian point that would be admired by David Caresh and Jim Jones and William Branham. Uh Lou has become a master manipulator now, able to tackle the biggest athletes and models in the world. Now, she has the confidence to strike it big and go for the mega celebrity that she's wanted all along. She's finally got a fish for that big fish. And she gets her in, not with Britney Spears herself. No, no, no, no. Brittany thought she was a stalker. Uh, she got her in with Jamie Spears instead. When it comes to a perfect mark, it's hard to think of someone more primed and prone than Jamie Spears. A drunk, a drug addict, and an arguable sociopath, he became the perfect target for Lou Taylor in 2004 when he moved out to the sunny shores of California after a divorce and an embarrassing stint in rehab for all of that substance abuse. Now, if you haven't already noticed, the biggest part of Lou Taylor's pattern, how she really seems to get people stuck in, is by getting them in their lowest and most vulnerable places. That's why I said I feel like she's a Christian manipulator, because when do the Christians always come calling? When someone died, they're not there fucking celebrating you when you get a promotion, but they'll show up if your mama dies. Um, so like just, I mean, think about it. She got her hands on Michael Moore, the boxer, when he was being sued every which way, and the people that had been managing him are going under. Then she got her hands on Ron Rtest when he was spiraling with charges and lawsuits against him. And then the same for Nikki Taylor. The model was about to walk out of the door on TriStar. She had said that in interviews. And then all of a sudden, she's almost loses her life. And then in comes Lou Taylor, whose husband has a church, and she's got this huge dose of Christianity. And suddenly Nikki is a self-proclaimed born-again Christian who's who's a member of Robert Taylor's church. Well, in 2004, I think it was it was Jamie Spears' turn, James P. Spears' turn, uh, to experience that sharpened point. So after he gets out of rehab, Jamie moves out to California where he moved in with his daughter, Brittany. She's like, I'm gonna get you out here. We're gonna be family. She's with Kevin Fetterline, she's starting to plan a family. You know, she she's she's gonna take care of daddy, as it were. And it seemed like the kind of it was gonna be the same old, same old, like, okay, he's been embarrassed now. His wife's left him, he's gone through rehab, he's gonna get back on his feet, and everything's gonna be fine, but it wasn't. Uh, just a month or so after getting out of rehab and moving to California, Jamie Spears was in meetings with with Larry Rudolph, who is one of Brittany Man Britney's managers, and he is he either is managing Taylor Swift or he's about to manage Taylor Swift at this time. I believe he already is because I think they get rid of him by like 2005 or something. So he would have been kind of probably messing around with Scott Swift by this point. Um, but Jamie is is is hanging out with Larry Rudolph and George. Maloouf. Okay, yes, yes, Malouf again. It's a strange crowd to be in. So Malof, of course, he comes from that same Malof family that had close working and personal relationships with Lou Taylor at this point. We don't have time to go into them. Go to Melanie Carlson's substack if you want to know more about the Maloofs. But it it kind of makes one question: did Lou Taylor introduce Jamie to George Malof, or was it the opposite way around? I tend to think that Lou Taylor, which you'll see why in a second, I think that Lou Taylor is the one who introduced Jamie to George Maloof, but you know, it's possible. It's possible. Uh, Lou's relationship with the Maloof family would be powerfully demonstrated a short time later uh when Lou Taylor managed to maneuver a contract between them and Artes. But it's also possible that something even dodgier happened, okay? Because in later movements to form Britney's conservatorship in 2008, uh, Lou Taylor would send an email, hand to God. This is on Melanie Carlson's Substack. You can go and look at the screenshot of this email. It blew my fucking mind. But Lou Taylor in 2008 sends an email to the people who are involved of setting up the conservatorship and essentially says, like, you should make me head of this. I should be I should be in control of the trust. And in this email that Lou would send in 2008, she states quite frankly that she and Jamie have been praying and fasting together for three years, right? We have Ron Artest, who's calling her a guru. Okay. She's acting as a guru to him. And now we've got Lou Taylor saying we I was praying and fasting with Jamie for three years before the conservatorship happened. So that would be right around this time. That would mean that Lou and Jamie started some kind of spiritual counseling relationship together in late 2004 or early 2005. And that's around the same time that Jamie was getting out of rehab and moving to California with Britney. It's a perfect end if you're a predatory Christian. Jamie Spears at that point was dealing with the public fallout of his addiction issues and his divorce to Lynn. And he was also, Lynn at this time was being staged as this golden parent because this is before Jamie Lynn's pregnancy. This is before Britney has shaved her head. So Lynn's kind of like this perfect golden parent in a lot of ways. They they they kind of criticize her for taking money, but Jamie is considered to be this like drug-addicted scumbag, right? So if ever there was a vulnerable place to attack a man like James Spears and to dump some manipulative cult leader bullshit on him, this is the kind of environment to do it in. And I personally believe that that's what Lou did because, you know, I mean, it doesn't matter. Whatever she did, it worked. In January of 2005, Jamie Spears changed the address of his company. I think it was the Spears group, is what he changed it to. He changes the address to Lou Taylor's TriStar Sports Entertainment Group in Nashville, Tennessee. That's in 2005. It's an odd mood, but it's one that will become more and more familiar as we look at the Spears family. The next year, 2006, Jamie made headlines, not for his daughter, but for himself when it was announced that he had quote unquote designed this poker software for I don't, I don't really understand. I can't tell if it's for use in the hotel or in the home. I used to spend about 30 seconds trying to understand it, and it just sounded like a bunch of bullshit to me, but it's basically some kind of poker software for casinos and for like tournament type poker. Uh Jamie launched this new software in 2006 with George Maloof. It's the Maloofs again, they're Palms Hotel, who he was also apparently working for as a cook, which doesn't make sense. But it even uh uh George, what's his name? Nassif, you know, who was married to Adrian Malouf, he makes a comment apparently in an episode of Botched where he says, like, yeah, Jamie Spears used to cook for me. It's crazy, absolutely nuts. Um, so Jamie launches this software with the Maloofs in 2006, and it looks like he's gonna be the next big thing, but that's not what happens because in that same year, Britney's life starts to go off the rails. Her second son, Jaden James, is born in September of 2006, and by October of that year, it's announced that Britney has filed for divorce from Kevin Fetterline. The next thing anyone knew, Britney was on the constant party circuit, and that meant being constantly in the tabloids, tits out, vagina out, face, you know, messed up, stumbling, shoeless, out of clubs off her face, like clearly with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan. The public and the media were like they just out, they everybody went wild with it. It was nuts. I talked about it, my mother talked, everybody was talking about it. There was, it was not not anywhere. Like it was literally everywhere. Um, and it was it was all negative, it was all horrible. It was basically like, ooh, look at Britney, how disgusting is she. And she wasn't gonna be the only one getting the heat pretty soon. Now we're gonna get back to Britney in just a second, but first we're gonna have to take a little detour to some other Spears family members, specifically Jamie Lynn and Lynn Spears, who had big years with Lou Taylor when it came to 2007. So while Britney was definitely kicking the media hornets' nest with her shocking behavior, Lou Taylor was making moves on the other Spears family members. In December of 2007, when it was announced that Jamie Lynn Spears, Britney's 15-year-old TV star sister, was pregnant, all eyes turned to the underage Nickelodeon star. Every magazine in the country, for once, had Britney's little sister on the cover instead of her. Tabloids couldn't get enough. The Spears parents were smeared as failures, which they are, and questions were immediately asked. Behind the scenes, Lou was spinning her web, Jesus in the center of it all. According to Jamie Lynn in her later memoirs, her parents were devastated by the pregnancy. As you would be, of course, you're gonna be devastated when your 15-year-old ends up pregnant. Both Jamie and Lynn wanted their daughter to abort the pregnant God. I hate, let me, I hate that they named that kid Jamie Lynn and their names are Jamie and Lynn. That is so white trash. Okay, right. Anyway, sorry, I'm sorry. I hate Britney Spears' parents so much. This is not a judgment on anyone else, just on them. I hate them. I hate them so much. Anyway, both Jamie and Lynn wanted Jamie Lynn to abort the pregnancy so that she could protect her career and her future. I'm sure they also want to protect that Nickelodeon check they had. According to Jamie Lynn, Lou Taylor is the one who basically like kicked the door in and insisted that the 15-year-old keeps the pregnancy. You you gotta do it. My husband's a pastor and we don't believe in abortion. You know, you can just see it. Jamie Lynn described it. It's it's horrifying. When I read it, I went, what a manipulative fucking when I read it. Because basically, if you go and read Jamie Lynn's memoir, I've just read chunks of it. Um, she describes Lou as quote unquote taking her under her wing, swooping in and insisting that no, no, she doesn't have to get rid of the baby. You must keep the baby and talked her into keeping the fucking baby at 15 years old, a child, a child, it's weird stuff. It's weird stuff. I recommend you go and look it up. She also she basically describes Lou as taking over like business. She creates a business, it gets registered to the tri-star address. Uh, she's she's obviously taking over the personal life, right? Because she's handling the pregnancy and stuff. And then all the while, under this shroud of Christian charity, this Christian keep your baby, even though you're a baby. It's your duty to God. Um, the the pregnancy gets announced, and guess how they announce it? Guess what they do with it? Because they're Christians. They're Christians, they're super, super Christian. This is what Jesus would have wanted. Uh, Jamie Lynn has a million-dollar exclusive with OK Magazine. Okay Magazine pays them one million dollars to sit a pregnant, scared teenager on the front of its magazine with this title that was like, I'm so scared. I've never been so scared. Like, I'm, and she's got just Jamie Lynn's got this horrified look. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Lou Taylor, I'm sure, got her cut of that one million dollar exclusive with OK Magazine, because again, she was she was running Jamie's new new business and it was under the tri-star address. But there was a little bit of a hitch in the plan. While Britney had been out getting snapped by the paparazzi, and while Jamie Lynn had been flaunting her spreading tummy on the cover of OK Magazine, Mommy Lynn Spears had been quietly getting her book together for a major deal. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Uh, between Jamie crashing out of rehab and Jamie Lynn getting pregnant, somewhere between there, Lynn Spears had registered her own business with a tristar address and had gotten herself a book deal with a major Christian publisher. Yep, Lou handling it all. And she was gonna publish a book about being a God-centered mother and a Leiden Crossfield family. Like, yeah, Lynn Spears, I kid you not. She was she she was gonna write a book for a fucking Christian company. I kid you not. I mean, that seems to be like that. Is now peddling, trafficking your children's seems to be a part of the Christian doctrine now because they accept so many people that do it. So that must mean that they endorse it. I mean, I don't know personally, but that's what it's looking like from here. If this is a Christian, then you know, yeah, you know. But in here, here's the next hitch. After it was announced that teen Jamie Lynn was pregnant, Lynn's book gets canceled by the Christian publisher who's like, yeah, sorry, you've got a pregnant 15-year-old. You cannot publish in the Christian thing. So maybe maybe I stand corrected. Maybe I stand corrected. It's just changed now because now Lynn is obviously considered a Christian and look what she's done to her children. Anyways, again, I digress. We can argue this all day. We can argue all day. Lynn's book gets canceled, and she was no doubt devastated, but the millions her teenage daughter was raking in from her pregnancy interviews to the tabloids was no doubt somewhat of a consolation prize. Now, while the circus around Jamie Lynn Spears was pretty bad in 2007, it was nothing to the scrutiny that Britney Spears faced, honestly, because 2007 was the year. The year. In February of 2007, Britney was admitted to inpatient treatment at a rehab facility in Antigua. But after 24 hours, she checked herself out and disappeared, only to reappear another 24 hours later in Tarzana, California, where she was photographed shaving off all her hair. Again, go back and listen to the Britney Spears Conservator episode if you want to get more into all of that kind of stuff. If you need all of that, the paparazzi and the umbrella and the craziness, if you need that, then you go, you go and you go and get that. Now, Lou Taylor didn't get her hands on Britney, not quite yet. Not quite in 2007, because that was tricky. Britney already had a trust to protect her assets, unlike her not as famous little sister or her mostly unknown parents, who basically started their first, like not the dad. He had they said construction business, but you look online, it said he owned a aviation company that he started in 79, which starting to wonder about him a little bit. Um but it's it's essentially it's much easier for Lou Taylor to get her hands on Britney's family rather than Britney, who already has all these people around her. Um, Lou was around though, because in 2007, when Britney's going through all this horrible stuff, there's an email where she says, Who is this Lou Taylor woman? She's like a stalker. She basically calls Lou Taylor a stalker. Now, Lou, let will just stop, just stop and take a checklist there. When it comes to the Spears family, there are five people, two parents and three kids. And at this point in 2007, when Britney's shaving her head and Lynn's announcing her pregnancy, three of the five Spears immediate family members are basically being managed and directed personally and financially and business-wise by Lou Taylor. And at least two of them, Jamie Lynn and her father, Jamie, are being spiritually led by this woman, which is a pretty scary fucking thought. So then we're in 2008, and this is where it all falls apart for Britney. In January of that year, she ends up on a psychiatric hold. There's another at the end of the month, and by February 1st, Britney is placed under conservatorship by the court. And Lou Taylor is writing emails during this time. That's that email that I referred to earlier, asking where she was like, I want to be the head of the trust because I've been a spiritual guru and I've been praying. So that qualifies me. Um, she's ultimately unsuccessful. She she doesn't get that at first, and she does, but she does get put in charge of managing Britney's business deals because Jamie gets put in charge, right? In February, Jamie Spears is given everything control over everything, which is why he's been in and out of rehab. Why um he's he's had like endless business failures. Why is that the person whose trust like anyway? It's a whole we could do a whole nother episode on that. But essentially, she she kind of gets her hands on it through Jamie because Jamie puts her over Britney's business affairs. Now, again, I'm not gonna go into it, you know, or you can go back and listen, but every part of Britney's life was controlled, everything what she wore, what she did, who she spoke to, everything. And but there are a few things that I want you to think about within the larger context of this. Okay, if you need more details about Britney, go over to Patreon. There's some significant things that you we need to address about the years and years and years of Britney's conservatorship. We're just there's just too much to go into, but there's some specific things you need to remember. Number one, Britney was heavily drugged during this time from 2008 to at least 2014, if not 2021, I think basically when she got out of it. She was heavily drugged per her own description, per her own acknowledgement to the court. She was put on lithium for years against her will, with doses being changed to keep her submissive or compliant or whatever they needed to do. This is, of course, exactly what Eugene Landy did to Brian Wilson, Patreon subscribers. You heard the bonus episode. Uh, that's what he did to Brian Wilson. He kept him drugged in a stupor unless he needed him to work and then he would give him uppers. Uh, very, very, very, very, very similar thing. Next thing Brittany was forced to work through fear and coercion. Uh, when she was ready to stop working, which was basically once she had her kids, she was kind of done. She she was not really interested. And basically from 2008, from the time that they put her in that conservatorship, she was world tour, world tour, world tour. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, and like albums every other year. It was yearly at one point. Just really crazy, crazy work. And they were getting her to do this work through fear and coercion. Um, they they just slung her around everywhere. And they they told her at one point, you're gonna be in contempt of court because you agreed to this conservatorship. So if you don't do what you're told, you're in contempt of court. Or the real kicker, that was probably the one that really got her, was they basically said they were gonna take visitation rights to her kids away if she didn't behave and do what she was told. So again, awful. And Lou Taylor was a part of this. Now, number three here, the third kind of thing, Britney was not allowed to socialize with anybody she wanted to. It was only people approved by basically Lou Taylor and Jamie Spears. Um, there was virtually no one that was chosen by Britney. It would, they were all people who worked for Lou or worked for Jamie, especially that Robin Greenhill gal, who is like Lou Taylor's second in command in her shadow and followed her from. I mean, it is a cult, man. I swear to God, it sounds like it's a cult. It's a cult, it's a cult. Um, number four, Britney's room was bugged and her phone was surveilled so that she had absolutely no privacy. Britney was never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever alone with herself. She was always being spied on. She was also always being listened to. They had a mirror of her iClouds. They could just constantly keep track of every single thing going on her phone. Uh, and then they would punish her if they found any misbehavior. Uh, Britney was only allowed to read or listen to Christian music, is also what I found digging around in here. They would only let her have the Christian books, Christian music, even though she likes to read a bunch of different things. And Britney was never allowed to be out on her own, nor was she allowed to come and go as she wanted. She was held on a strict exercise regime, again, just like Brian Wilson and Eugene Landy, and a tight medication schedule. And again, never ever alone, always being monitored through and handheld through all of that stuff. Now, why is this significant? Well, because there is a pattern, clear as day to me, the like that that's going on display here. Now, this theory that I'm about to give you was first pointed out by Melanie Carlson, and I think it is the most important part of that whole Substack deep dive. And it's one of the reasons I've been going on and on and on about everything, like of why I had to lead you through the Kardashians to get to this point to see how this is so connected and this is all part of the thing. If you look at the whole of Lou Taylor, the religious ties, the past clients, the behavior with Britney Spears, it paints a picture. Not unlike that of certain individuals. Individuals like I don't know, Keith Rainier from the Nexium cult or David Miscavige from Scientology, right? And here, let me all lay it out. I'll lay it out, I'll lay it out. According to this is Melanie Carlson's theory. I agree with it. I think she's 100% on the ball. I mean, here it is. Lou Taylor's a cult leader. She's running her business like a pseudo-Christian cult leader. She's a cult leader. She's a cult leader, okay? And I think you can tell if you look at what's called the like bite mind control method, okay. And this was developed by Dr. Steve Hassan, who's so good. He is on TikTok. If you're on TikTok, please go follow Dr. Steve Hason. So good. So he has what's called the bite method, B-I-T-E. And this is how authoritarian and cult leaders coerce people, get them brainwashed, as it were, mind control. There's not really brainwashing, mind controlled, coerced, guilted, stuck into these high control environments. So number one, the B is behavioral control. Control what the person does, who they're around, what's around them, strict rules that control all their finances, their professional life, their personal life, their medical decisions. Control absolutely everything. Make them ask permission. Every time they want to do anything, they want to make a Decision on anything, even down to like what they wear, make them reliant, use reward, use punishment for compliance, or fear if you need to do it, right? Behavioral control, controlling their behavior. The second one, I, information control, controlling access to data, to people, to anyone with any conflicting viewpoints. Make sure there's no one around who can say, are you sure about that? That sounds pretty fucked up, right? You make you make a bubble. You make a bubble. That's information control. Thought control. Limit the capacity for independent thinking and critical evaluation. Ban questions of doubt. Make the central doctrine the only truth allowed. Only feed them information that will confirm the mind-controlling information biases that you're giving them, right? Like Britney Spears being given only Christian books to read. That's the T, thought control, emotional control. Control how members are allowed to feel and process experiences, instill fear of the outside world, instill a sense of self-blame, guilt, and shame, create extreme dependency. Britney's definitely got the dependency. She definitely has the dependency. And you can absolutely tell, well, we know this for a fact because she would say, I was down, I was depressed, I didn't want to work, I didn't want to do it. And it was basically like put on your fucking smile and get the fuck on stage. That's a part of emotional control. And the drugging is a part of the emotional control as well. Just as we did with Brian Wilson, who you can hear about again in that bonus episode, um, Britney was basically turned into a giant childlike vegetable, right? Britney was subjugated in so much of this, so much of this. She she ceased being a person and she was basically just like a circus elephant. You know, they did like horrible. It's just, it's just, it's just horrible. And to a degree, knowing that Lou has done this as well with Nikki, with our test, with with Britney, like to what degree did she do it with Britney's family? You know, like she's we've seen what she did to Britney. To what degree she done this to Britney's family. Is she fed Jamie Spears drugs? I don't know. I have no idea. I have absolutely no idea. Lou has said herself, though, that her management style is complete control. I'm not kidding. Listen, listen to this. This is this is a quote from Lou Taylor. We are an extension of every single person that touches their life. She's talking about her celebrity clients. Lou doesn't just manage bank accounts and mortgage payments for these celebrities. She controls their life. And the point make her powerful, make her successful, and funnel that power and money back into that fucking Seven Mountains mandate that she follows in her Christian narcissism. Because that's what she is, that's what she does. She's a narcissist. Anyone who follows this prosperity gospel, fake Christian shit is a narcissist. And within that, just just to just an FYI, Lou Taylor made 18 million, right? Her tristar group was paid 18 million during the Britney Conservatorship. There's at least 40,000 of that. I believe the number is 40,000. It might be higher than that. It might be higher than that. At least 40,000 of that from Britney's Las Vegas shows was donated to anti-LGBTQ charities. Because remember, it says it, it says it on her website. They don't believe that LGBTQ people exist. They think that there's a man and a woman and that you are meant to get married, to breed children, to make more Christians. And anything outside of that, they don't think you should exist, right? So that's what Lou Taylor is doing with the money she made off Britney Spears and the money she's she's making off of anyone else. And that's just, that's just that donation that was able to be tracked down. God knows what Lou does with her personal money, especially considering the fact that she's got a church that doesn't believe in anything outside of man and woman should be breeding. So if we put all of that together, what what does all like I've thrown so much information at you today? What does it mean? Well, here comes the soapbox. It means that Lou Taylor is a part of a dangerous Hollywood cycle, a cycle that scoops people up and turns them into objects that can be further objectified by people for money. Period. End of. And the irony of it all is that Lou within this, she calls herself a Christian. All of that I just described to you, she thinks that's Jesus. She thinks donating $40,000 of a pop stars, sexy Las Vegas show money to Jesus, to anti, not even to Jesus, to anti-LGBTQ charities, to people who want to cause harm and pain. She thinks Lou Taylor thinks that's Christian. She thinks it's Christian. She's obviously literally never read the fucking Bible. Lou Taylor, if you're listening to this, you've never read the fucking Bible, you fucking clown. You must be illiterate. A follower, she calls herself a follower of the man who castigated the tax collectors who destroyed the temple. If her story, if we assume, as her church website says, she believes that the Bible is literal, okay, then she claims that she's the follower of the man who castigated tax collectors who destroyed the temple. A man who said it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a wealthy person to enter the kingdom of heaven. So how the hell can you call yourself a Christian and put on your church website that you preach prosperity gospel? Lou Taylor is the antithesis of a Christian. She is not a Christian, she's a hypocrite. She is a hypocrite writ large. She is a literal, actual Pharisee. She is the Pharisee that Jesus warned people to avoid at all costs. She is a fucking clown. She worships false prophets, money and power, namely. There's nothing behind it but the insatiable black hole of an ego that all extremist evangelical Christian narcissists have. They're essentially the hungry ghost from spirited away, literal black holes that consume with nothing inside. Sure, they'll spit out some gold, but they're empty. Yeah, Lou Taylor can make some money, but she can't manage empathy. Yeah, not rich enough for that, apparently. And she targets weak people on purpose in their most vulnerable moments. Remember when I read that quote to you at the beginning from Lou Taylor and how she was saying that she knew her purpose, right? Was to like work with the people who hadn't been preached to, the people who don't have God yet. Like this whole, like, I'm so noble, I'm like Jesus. I'm going to the people who haven't been ministered to. Aren't I so special? She doesn't do that because she's a good person. Lou Taylor targets people who don't know the Bible and don't know God because they don't know enough of the actual Bible, of the actual Christian religion to defend themselves. That's why she targets people who have never been exposed to Christianity or to God or to religion, because they don't have a reference point to defend themselves with. They just go, oh, I guess that's what it says. And that's it. That's it, right? It goes back to the Reformation and the Protestants being like, hey, we the Bible needs to be in English because people need to know what they're saying. She would be the Catholic Church in this incident, like really manipulative. Like, let's, let's, let's just get people who don't know, don't know what this is about. And let's just get them to pay us money and show up and keep their mouths shut. That is Lou Taylor. That's why she wants to get people who haven't been converted yet, because they don't know. They don't know. She traps suckers because she's a predator. And that's all she is. That's all she'll ever be. She's like this chameleon predator. I don't know. Is there like an evil octopus? Because that's kind of what she is. She's like an evil octopus that can change colors and squeeze itself through little holes. She's like an evil Christian narcissist octopus. And you know what? Narcissism is not curable, by the way. Narcissism's not curable. This is all my personal opinion, of course. Um, but narcissism is not not curable. That's that's that that part is not my opinion. That is fact. NPD is not curable. You don't ever get rid of it. You can learn to manage it. Um, you know, but you I don't think I don't think Lou Taylor is too worried about her incurable narcissism because she doesn't seem to be worried about being an evil bitch. So, you know, she she's willing to subjugate human beings for personal gain. Sorry, I don't think that person is is gonna be worried about seeking help in the first place because it's a very specific kind of person who would be that willing to manipulate and harm others, right? Like David fucking Koresh. Um, so Lou, if uh if you were your scumbag, your scumbag husband with your scumbag church are listening to this, uh, it's not Pearly Gates you have waiting for you. Uh your if your vision of hell and heaven exists as as you uh try to force on your website, uh, you're going straight to hell, honey. Straight to it. A one-way ticket. And let me tell you this as someone who actually grew up in Tennessee. Okay, you got a one-way ticket, front seat of the bus to hell. And there ain't gonna be nothing there waiting for you but the same pain and subjugation that you have caused to others. So rest in piss, slavers. And that's gonna be it. That is it. That is gonna be the close of my Lou Taylor episode. I know we didn't get into every single nitty gritty detail. I know you wanted to hear about how she stole $600,000 and from Britney Spears and gave it to the Kardashians, but I only speak on things that I can find a paper trail for and the $600,000 from the Kardashian. While I 100% believe every rumor about her could possibly be true, I feel like she is completely fucking capable of all the heinous things she's been charged with. I cannot find a concrete 100% paper trail that would convince me that enough to get on here and say she 100% did it. I'm not saying she didn't do it. I'm just saying I can't find proof of it. So whoever does find that proof, who finds that paper trail of the Kardashians siphoning off money from Britney Spears, and you can put it on camera, 100% verifiable document that other people can go and pull up, you will blow up and you'll be way more famous than I don't know who's someone who does this kind of stuff. I don't know who does this. I'm not, I'm not, I only I don't have that many followers, but you know, you'll be huge if you can find that paper trail. I would love to see it if you can find that paper trail because I I cannot, but that is our Lou Taylor episode. I think that that's enough. I think that's enough. I think that's enough context. I think you can see where the patterns come from. I think you can see the kind of people that she's worked with. You can see her character, you can see her personality, you can see her MO. You can see what she is. And that's what's important because if you can see what she is, you can see other people like her. Because Lou Taylor doesn't just exist in Hollywood. Okay. This is what Hollywood is. It's this disgusting quagmire of it's essentially trafficking. The whole of Hollywood is just like trafficking, trafficking drugs, trafficking people, trafficking children. Like it's it's um, it's just unfathomable. It's not fathomable in one way or another. It's just trafficking people. Um, so it's if you can see this, you can see it happening to other people. You can stop paying attention to it, which as I always say, your attention is money. And we can just find a better way, focus on better people, stop giving these people money. I mean, as far as I know, the Kardashians still work with Lou Taylor. There's a ton, just go and Google who is working with Lou Taylor. Because I think Kim is a princess and one of Chris's businesses still still work with her, even though people have been telling them for years, stop working with the woman who exploited another woman, right? But we know the Kardashians don't care about that because they exploited people using Avok Hagopian and William Branham, right? With all that fake healing stuff that they were getting like 40 grand a night from from the they would have been getting a cut 40 grand a night from some of those fake healing revival things that they were doing. So shouldn't be surprised, but uh it's heinous. The rest of us, though, we can starve out people like Lou Taylor by taking our attention away, giving it to better people. Like, what go, let's go spend some time this weekend digging on the internet to find someone who's not represented by a talent agency or a record label, and let's let's find someone cool. Let's go and find a new artist to connect with singer, songwriter, painter, uh, musician, or uh composer, movie maker, whatever it is. Go and find go and find somebody who's not on a label, who's not on some big production unit. Go and find somebody new to follow and to study. And let's let's try to starve out these Lou Taylor types. Because if we just stop tuning in, we can't not talk about them. But if we stop tuning into them, we can starve them out. So that's gonna be it. Uh, I will be back next week with a it's a very tragic episode, but it's gonna be a little bit of a breather. I I need a break from the series before we get into the big series. It will not be the psychedelic episode next time, but we'll be we'll be on the edge of that. And then I'm gonna get into a big series on this psychedelic revolution and Stanley Owsley and Melissa Cargill and Ronnie Gisson slash Stanley and and all of these people in a series that will be coming up a little bit later this summer, but you'll just have to wait and see. As always, if you want a deeper peek into all of this twisted Hollywood nonsense or you want to fall down another rabbit hole with the psychedelic movement stuff, which I'm currently deep diving on my Patreon, uh join me over there. Join me over on Patreon. You get bonus episodes, early releases, and a whole lot more. And you can get all of that at patreon.com slash scandalqueens. 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